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  From enemies to friends: Did it really happen?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday, they showed the story “from enemies to friends” at the kingdom hall.

  my mother in law told me about it as she was touched by the story.

  so then, later in the evening, i searched for the video and found it in the january 1st 2017 broadcast.

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  LisaRose

  I don't think the organization ever let facts get in the way of a good story. I believe most convention "experiences" we're either greatly exaggerated or just plain urban legends, borrowed from other religions and tweaked to fit the JW perspective.
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  Hello Again

  by everbrighterhal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm sorry if this is in the wrong category!

  i am formerly adimmedlight, or something close to that.

  i have been lurking here a few years now and while i did make an account before, i used a fake email (i no longer remember it, since it was made only to log in the one time i posted.. )because i was so paranoid people in my home town would discover me and "out" me.

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  LisaRose

  Welcome, thank you for sharing your story, glad you are moving on in your life.

  I found it was fairly easy to realize that the Watchtower wasn't the truth and most of what they taught were simply opinions, what was harder was rooting out the deeply ingrained guilt about everything. Somehow the idea that I need to be perfect in everything was really hard to get rid of, It was so deeply ingrained in a subconscious level. I found meditation to be helpful for that, also for freeing myself up creatively. I am more artisan that artist, but greatly enjoy the creative process ( I have a small business making vintage style signs out of reclaimed wood). If you haven't tried meditation, I like the guided meditations by The Honest Guys on You tube to be very helpful.

  It's funny how those stupid Kindom Maladies still give me ear worms sometimes, even though I have been out for 18 years. Is the one you are thinking of the one that goes "Kiss the son, lest God be angry and you perish on the way"? It does sound a bit like Hark the Herald Angels.

  Lisa 🌹
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  "Worldly" boyfriend has never met my JW family, and might never will.

  by BL_Poet in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  public service announcement: i am not going to write a whole backstory on myself, i just simply want to get to the point.. i have been disfellowshipped now for almost 3 years, for i had a baby out of wedlock, not by my current boyfriend, but by a guy i was dating at the time- don't judge me ;) lol- my current boyfriend and i have been dating for a year now.

  i've met his family-only his parents, and his cousins family, of whom i knew before i met him, thus how i met him through a bbq- at the time, he knew i was a single mom, and didn't know too much of my backstory.

  as you can imagine, i had to tell him about how my babies father and i didn't work out, due to his wandering eye, and how i had little to no support due to being disfellowshipped, or as the "world" knows it by- disassociated- from my religion.

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  LisaRose

  Sounds like you have had a rough time of it.

  You don't owe your boyfriends family a long explanation. Just say that you and your family are estranged, as they couldn't accept you having a baby out of wedlock. As you get to know them better you can expand, but Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the only religious nuts out there, just the ones that make it a requirement to shun.

  Yes, they may give you the side eye, but they will get to know you and get over it, so dont dwell on it.
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  Hee Haw was not clean

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, my son bought me a device that allows me to look up and watch anything i want.

  i remember years ago , i enjoyed the television show hee haw on sunday evenings.

  i naively thought it was wholesome family entertainment.

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  LisaRose

  Well I haven't seen that show since the seventies, and I rarely watched it then as it seemed kind of boring, but I may have to check it out, because if there is that much sex going on it must be better than I remember, what with the mini skirts and such.
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  What Makes Someone Become a JW?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my excuse is that i was born in the religion.

  but if someone wasn’t, why would they become one?.

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  LisaRose

  I converted at 13, back in 1969, along with my parents. The religion offered a narrative that appealed to me at the time. I liked the idea of a paradise earth, it appealed to me more than the idea of heaven. In a time of societal change it offered concrete answers, it was a very different time, and I was a different person. It was before the internet, so my ability to fact check was limited. I did research at the library, but it was an obscure group, there wasn't much out there, so the Watchtower lies about their history were not caught.
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  Secret sex in the Org

  by pomo6780 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  2 pioneers of the opposite sex.

  the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.

  both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.

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  LisaRose

  I am supposed to be the "mentality diseases apostate" but my life seems quite dull in comparison to these folks. I am happily married and faithful to my husband, go figure.

  Maybe these are just extreme examples, but it sometimes seems like there is more weird sex going on in the religion than in the population as a whole. Maybe it's just because the rules are so strict that when people do transgress it gets gossiped about so much more, or maybe because repressing sex just makes people more likely to act out, or some combination, who knows.
  

  the UK, 'the toilets' means the restrooms.

  One of those American/British cases where the language is the same, but meanings vary. I have heard it confuses the Brits when Americans ask to use the bathroom, because bathrooms sometimes do not actually have a toilet (it may be in a separate room) so it's not how they refer to it, so it makes them wonder if they are asking to take a bath.
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  Does anyone like Steampunk?

  by days of future passed in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i love people's being creative with this genre.

  i stumbled on this video which is a lot of fun.

  past the end credits is out takes and how it was made.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=211lnk5vnjm.

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  LisaRose

  This is our Halloween outfits from three years ago. The weapons are Nerf guns that I altered. Still looking for another occasion to wear this as we change our costumes each year.
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  Difficulty fading out

  by Emily1987 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my first post on here so i apologize that it is like an essay!.

  my husband and i are currently 'fading out' of the truth.

  we stopped preaching in may 2016 and limited meeting attendance in january 2017 and stopped completely in june 2017. my main reason for this was my whole life i have been doing things to please others, even getting baptized to please my mum.

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  . Not only am I distraught that someone I used to consider as my best friend could do this, I am confused as to why!!

  It's a cult, people have been conditioned to believe that obedience to the whims of seven men is more important than anything, including friendship or family or even their own natural sense of right and wrong.

  Fading can be done, but it's not easy and it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you are celebrating Christmas. You can try and stall the elders by simply refusing to meet with them, but it it's going to be hard. It's one thing to quietly do your own thing, it's another to simply stand up to them and refuse to answer intrusive questions or play their game, so carefully consider what you are prepared to do. Disassociating and fading each have their benefits and drawbacks, only you can decide what is best In your particular situation.

  In any case, welcome to the forum and

  Feliz Navidad

  Joyeux Noel

  Merry Christmas

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  what is the sales technique here?

  by Kevin McFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's will never knock on your door and say, "hi, we are here to convert you".

  speaking to a reporter recently a jw media rep at hq said " our main purpose going door to door is not to convert but to share bible truths with people".

  does anyone know the sales techniques involved here?

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  LisaRose

  It's called lying.
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  So my PIMO Younger Brother Tried To Kill Himself Today

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.

  he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.

  he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.

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  LisaRose

  I am so sorry to hear about this, it must be awful.

  Perhaps you can ask to speak to whoever is in charge of his care and let them know of this abuse by his family and the elders. Your brother may not be able to fully express what is going on or is feeling guilty about his attempt. They need to know what they are dealing with.