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  Just visited ex-Mormon site

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for some reason i thought i'd have a look see at an ex-mormon site.

  very similar experiences, difficulties, pain etc for them , as us.. one girl made a statement that really stood out, she said that for a born-in , especially one whose family had been in for years , it was like " losing citizenship in a country that contained all of your history, all of your culture, and all of your heritage.".

  i think that is so true, we leave and are immigrants in a strange land and culture that we know nothing about, no wonder it takes us a while to adjust..

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  LisaRose

  I believe the culture is very similar. I knew an ex Mormon, she was a born in, but knew at an early age it was not for her. At 16, she got a job, had a friends mom help her rent an apartment, and just moved out on her own. Tough girl, she didn't want to get married at 18 and pump out a bunch of babies like all her sisters. Her mom would not even speak to her, but sent the elders around (this was years later) . Her roommate told them she was turning tricks down on Colfax (known prostitution area) I had a good laugh about that, she was actually a flight attendent.
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  Why aren't you an Atheist?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long time lurker, first time poster.. .

  i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.

  over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.

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  LisaRose

  I have not really been able to figure out what I am. Athiest seems to require a conviction I do not feel. Agnostic doesn't seem to fit either. I believe there is something out there bigger than ourselves, although what, I cannot say. You would think after 12 years out of the cult I would have a better idea, but after being so darn sure I had the *only* true religion, then finding out it was all a lie, I find I am OK with some ambiguity.
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  How many of you have lost your faith on JWN

  by Most Noble in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious, if anyone had lost faith whilst on jwn and do u think it is an honorable experience?..

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  LisaRose

  I had already been out quite a while before I found JWN. It did help me resolve a few lingering questions, and it was great finding others who had been through the same thing. I am glad it is here.
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  How Many Hours Did You Spend Going to the Meetings and Ministry?

  by God_Delusion in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i spent far too many.

  in fact, i recently created a spreadsheet and documented how many hours i spent in total per week.

  it's so depressing.

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  LisaRose

  I once did a calculation like that. As a working mom, doing all that was needed for my family (cooking, cleaning, homework, etc) plus all the Society required, I would have maybe 6 hours or so in the week to call my own. I think I kind of gave up a little then. I didn't think that was enough for any person to have any kind od happy life. I stayed for another ten years, but I stoped caring if I missed meetings, or field service. I just did the minimum.
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  Urban Legend, or TRUTH? How did story of Ray Franz "spitting on" Karl Kline get started?

  by dreamgolfer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard a story and wanted to get some follow up.

  did anyone hear the same?.

  supposedly at a mutual friends funeral (i dont know who) ray "supposedly spat" on karl kline for not talking to him after ray was df'd?.

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  LisaRose

  I always thought the rumors about homosexuality were spread by the GB themselves to deflect attention from the real reason. One comment in the right ear and it would be all over Watchtowerdom by the next day. The dubs do love a juicy piece of gossip.
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  You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion When:

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a list i've started...but hope will be added to.. .

  you know you are in the wrong religion when:.

  1. the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

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  LisaRose

  You know you are in the wrong religion when you are taught to distrust your own thoughts.

  and you are told to shun your own family.

  and you are told to kill yourself or a child by refusing a blood transfusion.

  When you are told "A generation" can be more than "one generation".

  When you were told you didn't need college because you would not have time for a career in this system and now you a card carrying member of AARP.
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  My brother died tonight

  by poppers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just got word that my youngest brother died of pancreatic cancer.

  he was diagnosed in early august.

  this has been really tough for me and my family..

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  LisaRose

  I am so sorry for your loss. My thoughts will be with you
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  can't make this up

  by pontoon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so this 70 something yr old brother, ex bethelite, ex spec pioneer, current pioneer with over 50 yrs of full time service is lamenting he might have to step down as an elder because he is computer ignorant.

  i guess the org uses the internet to communicate with elders and having internet access is required of elders.

  anyway he's going to dunkin donuts with his wife and he sees free wifi.

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  LisaRose

  My in laws are in their 80's, they each have their own computers, Internet access etc.

  I do feel sorry for older ones that have never had one and now feel left out, but there are classes out there. I volunteer for a program that reaches out to the elderly and helps them get computer training, if they want that. We help them develop any skill they would like to pursue.
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  We want you to feel guilty!

  by solomon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is another fine spiritual gem from the january 2013 study edition.. .

  as the great tribulation nears, we do not want to be plagued with such anxious thoughts as these:'could i have done more in god's service?

  didn't i pioneer when i had the opportunity?

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  LisaRose

  That was the worst thing about this religion. The constant unremitting guilt. You could never do enough, or be good enough for the WTBTS. Finally I just gave up. What was the point? No matter what you did you felt guilty. I couldn't believe God intended us to feel this way. So goodbye JWs and guilt, hello happy life.
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  Weird stuff that only an exJW would know

  by biblecheck in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking tonight about all the wierd stuff that i viewed as totally normal being brought up as a jw.... here's my list.... - eating broken easter eggs after easter was not a sin.

  - your car always had to be clean in time for the co visit.

  - being assigned to the car park at a convention, with a walkie talkie, meant you had powerful connections.. - the amount of lines and hand writing on your sunday watchtower, spoke volumes of your spirituality.

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  LisaRose

  If you buy things at a garage sale, they could be demonized and you will then have to burn them.

  Smufs toys are demonized and will get up and walk out of the kingdom hall.