There is nothing wrong with crying, it's a good start actually. It shows you understand the totality of what has been done to you. It usually takes a while to get to that stage, there is often a certain amount of denial at first. Now you can start fresh and begin to move on and heal.
LisaRose
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Sad about the past
by Gorbatchov intoday i feel deep sad memories in my brain.. visiting bookstudy with my parents, doing my best giving answers at 7 years old.. doing fieldservice every weekend and on an evening.. i could write so much story's about it.. we believed from our hart and listened to what the organisation told us.. it makes me sad, what a scam it became.. today i can't stand it.. i can cry about it.
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New York Post. Jehovah's Witnesses hid over 1000 sex abuse cases
by ToesUp inhttp://nypost.com/2015/07/27/jehovahs-witnesses-hid-over-1000-sex-abuse-cases/.
ny post.
i hope many people see this information.
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LisaRose
This is great. Of course they have already warned people not to believe the media, that it's just Satan attacking them, but not every one will fall for that. It might also make field service uncomfortable. People used to think JWs were that strange religion that didn't celebrate Christmas, now they will think of it as that strange religion that protected pedophiles.
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JW Hatred and Elders Apathetic Manners Drove Me Here! Why are JWs fooled in to thinking the WTS Cares?
by Judas Maccabee infor years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.
with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.
i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.
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LisaRose
Welcome!
There is a saying that goes: All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Jehovah need's his financial support
Right, the all powerful creator of the universe needs money? Why would a just God allow an evil person to flourish because he needed the money? Sounds like an ineffectual, weak God to me. The bible says that God could make the stones cry out, yet he is powerless to stop an abusive person in his own organization? Rationalize much? The Watchtower criticizes other religions for less than this. Guess what, this kind of behavior proves this religion does not have God's backing.
I dont know of any way to leave, live your life with integrity and not get the apostate label. It's very hard to maintain a double life, it takes a toll on you physically, mentally and emotionally. What is holding you back from leaving? Are you afraid your wife will leave you? That is a valid fear. Some have left and convinced their spouse to leave also, but it's very difficult, especially if your wife checks up on you like that, it doesn't sound as if she would be open to it.
Proceed with caution.
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JW ended a relationship with me
by V1922 inmy jw boyfriend just ended a year and a half relationship with me.
it came out the blue and i'm deeply hurt by this because we were so compatible.
he did it right before the big annual gathering he is presently attending.
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LisaRose
Many Jehovah's Witnesses are nice, as then tend to attract honest hearted people looking for a better life. Unfortunately they have been manipulated using cult mind control. Before you get further involved you owe it to yourself to learn more about the religion and cults and how they work. I suggest JW facts.com and howcultswork.com as a starting point.
The Watchtower Bible and Tract society, the legal entity behind Jehovah's Witnesses, is very dishonest about their history and practices. They have predicted the end of the world numerous times, most notably in 1914 and 1975. They then pretend they never predicted any such thing. JWs are told to not trust any source but them, they are especially told not to talk to former members, as we are "mentally diseased apostates". Our crime is not believing the Watchtower is God's only channel of communication for mankind, or doing things most people consider normal, like voting, saluting the flag or celebrating Christmas. We all have family and friends who will not talk to us because we left the religion.
We frequently see people post here in similar situations to you. JWs may leave the group and do things they are my allowed to while in the religion. They may fall in love and get married outside the religion. Unfortunately they often start feeling guilty and/or miss their family and friends and so go back as your boyfriend has. This is very hard on their marriage or relationship.
If you get married and have children, how will you feel about them being raised in the religion and not allowed to celebrate birthdays and Christmas? How will you feel about him going to five hours of services every week plus going out in the door to door work every Saturday? Every JW has an obligation to do these things. How will you feel about your spouse refusing a blood transfusion for himself or your children? What if you break up and he convinces your children to join the group? Marriage is hard enough without all these complicating factors, so think about what that might mean for you.
I know it must be heart breaking to have this happen, but be very careful before proceeding with a relationship with this man. Make sure you understand what you are getting into.
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This generation revisited.
by Bigdummy init's 1:30 am and i'm wide awake again as usual.
i was doing a little bible reading yesterday and.
came across luke 11:29 where jesus states " when the crowds were increasing, he began to say,.
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LisaRose
Manipulating people by predicting doom is hard. You have to walk a fine line between making people believe the end is really soon (so you think you need them to save you) and actually predicting a specific date, which inevitably proves you are just making things up. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is pretty good at this, and why not, they have been doing it for over a hundred years. They lead people to make assumptions, then pretend it wasn't their fault that you made assumptions.
They have gotten away with it so far, but being a doomsday cult is not what it used to be The internet makes it hard to hide things and people are just not as gullible as they used to be. The generation teaching is a weak point for them. They have redefined it to the point of being absurd. People buy it, sort of, because they don't have much choice, but it has to be a question mark for a lot of people, they may not leave right now, but they may start to be less invested in the religion, miss some meetings, skip field service more and contribute less.
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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh
by WildeLover inhttp://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.
i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.
it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.
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LisaRose
I wish we were as diabolical and organized as the Watchtower pretends we are. If we actually were "mentally diseased apostates" we would be able to take advantage of the latest developments to hit them while they are struggling.
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Witnesses and anxiety disorder
by mana11 ini saw this on a public user group for jw's .
the librarian [email protected].
the caption reads:.
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LisaRose
how about fibro myalgia ? i know several female ex jws who have it--yet i dont know anyone else who has. i'd never heard of it before.
It's pretty common even among non JWs, but I do think JWs are more prone. I have it since my JWs days so unfortunately I have had to think a lot about how it happened. Fibromyalgia is believed to be a problem with the pain signals in the brain. It can be caused by stress and overuse of the muscles, but other than that no one really knows. Men do get fibro, but it is more common than women.
I believe it's a combination of my inborn personality (sensitive and introverted) plus the guilt inducing effects of the cult (never good enough) plus some traumatic life events (child suicide attempts, near death of spouse) plus physical trauma (car accident), plus stressful job, plus social isolation (disfellowshipped husband) . The result is fibromyalgia, widespread pain and muscle soreness. Lack of adequate sleep is believed to be a factor, you can produce symptoms simply by depriving people of sleep. There are tender spots in various places on the body, fibromyalgia is diagnosed when there is pain in at least nine of the eighteen potential points, which are in the same spots for everyone. Sometimes there is a visible lump in the points.
As some others have pointed out, women in the organization have no power and little status.There is a psychological price in the high expectations of the JW life, especially when there is little support or respect. You are either killing yourself trying to meet these expectations or you are feeling guilty about it because you didn't, then when you do get fibromyalgia people usually just think you are faking, because you don't look sick. I have heard many here express the belief that women just make this up to get out of going to meetings. That attitude just adds to your stress and make things worse, it becomes a vicious cycle. The fatigue and pain can be debilitating.
I knew of a case in my congregation. She was the much loved eldest daughter ( I used to think of her as the princess, dad was an elder and she was a pioneer.) She got married and they both were accepted at Bethel. Having read many accounts of Bethel life here I can only imagine that it was a huge culture shock in going from pioneer princess to a status of "lower than whale poop in the Marianas trench" only accepted because they wanted her husband. The petty jealousy and abuse that gets meted out to new ones would be hard to take. She worked in the laundry folding clothes, something that would be a problem for anyone prone to this, the respective motion alone could cause it. Within a year she got fibromyalgia, she was in her early twenties.
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Witnesses and anxiety disorder
by mana11 ini saw this on a public user group for jw's .
the librarian [email protected].
the caption reads:.
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LisaRose
A high number of them have all manner of illnesses--both physical and mental----that i had never heard of before. coincidence =-or what ?
I will assume you meant that in a sympathetic way, not that all ex JW women are crazy or sick.
I will say that being a JW did take a toll on me both physically and mentally.The constant stress did cause some problems, things that I will probably deal with the rest of my life. I have been out for fifteen years and mentally I am fine, physically not so much.
I think men are affected just as much, but maybe in express it in different ways. Some have anger issues, some have substance abuse issues.
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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?
by 3rdgen ina poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.
break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.
the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.
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LisaRose
That sounds about right, possibly sooner. I think thry got rid of it to stop people from escaping at the break. It was a mixed bag, as it was a break from the monotony of the meetings, but then you were forced to talk to people whether you wanted to or not. Did they then shorten the meeting by fifteen minutes or just fill it up with more meeting? I can't remember.