My wife and I had a great day. It was 50 degrees here - abnormally warm for this time of year here in Maine. We got out the motorcycles and took a nice ride.
DocBob
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It Is Friday The 13th..What Kind Of Day Did You All Have?
by Legolas init is orlando bloom's birthday btw.....happy birthday orlie
but my darn mouse broke today
and now i am just starting to have a few drinks of rum...cheers all!
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Brother Chronister strikes again! Caught in bathroom w/camera phone and boy
by Dogpatch inpassing this on:.
brother chronister strikes again!.
a two time convicted sex offender that was engaged to a sister was caught in a walmart bathroom attempting to photograph a nine year old boy with his cell phone.
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Unfortunately, a penis-ectomy won't solve a problem with a desire in their brain. If only it were that simple.
Then I guess he needs a brain-ectomy ;-)
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US FEDERAL COURT RULES FOR EX MEMBER WEBSITES
by DannyHaszard inus lawsuit against nz website operator thrown out
stuff.co.nz, new zealand - 21 hours ago .
a united states federal judge has thrown out a racketeering and defamation lawsuit filed against new zealand website operator, ian mander, by a maine-based ... .
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Hi Danny,
Thank you for starting this thread.
Jim Bergin and Judy Garvey, the former Gentle Wind Project members who were sued contacted me several months ago after I posted a news item about the suit against Rick Ross on my website. I've been in touch with them since and have been monitoring the progress of the suit.
Gentle Wind Project started up here in my hometown of Kittery and still owns a large house here. They also own a house and a large barn/garage where Judy tells me they produce their "healing instruments" in Durham NH (about 15 minutes away from Kittery). I drove by the Durham property last week and noticed that it was for sale. Asking price is a million and a quarter.
I think Judge Carter's decision is a huge victory for Judy and Jim, but also for all of us. If GWP had prevailed in this suit, I could imagine the WTS filing the same kind of lawsuit, inovking the RICO statutes, against all of us who have websites that are critical of the WTS. It would not have been pretty.
Below is a statement from Judy and Jim about the recent decision.
Gentle Wind Project Lawsuit Dismissed
On January 3, 2006 we received the long-awaited news that Senior District Judge Gene Carter granted our "Motion for Summary Judgment" on the Gentle Wind Project’s RICO (racketeering) claim -- the only Federal claim that remained in GWP’s lawsuit against us. The PDF of the Federal Court Order is an intriguing and educational read for anyone interested in the preservation of free speech on the Internet, and also provides a quick summary of the lawsuit facts. (Plaintiffs filing the lawsuit were GWP leaders: John “Tubby” Miller, Mary “Moe” Miller, Carol “Max” Miller, Shelbourne “Shelly” Miller, Pam Ranheim, and Joan Carreiro of Durham NH and Kittery ME.
Judge Carter further ordered that GWP's lawsuit Counts III through VII against us (the state claims, such as defamation) be dismissed from Federal Court. This important Order granting our MSJ – which also provides a quick summary of the lawsuit facts – can be read on "Wind of Changes," the website for former members of GWP: http://www.windofchanges.org A large victory was also granted to Ian Mander of New Zealand Cults List – www.cults.co.nz/updates.php – one of our many co-defendants originally sued by GWP leaders. (Other co-defendants included Rick Ross, Steve Gamble, Ivan Fraser, and Steve Hassan.) Judge Carter dismissed GWP’s claims against Mander and denied their motion for default judgment against him. Ian Mander won this judgment without spending a dime on defense. Read the 3-page PDF to learn the story. The entire GWP lawsuit has now been completely dismissed.
The Millers could refile in state court, but that would mean starting all over again. It would also put our Counterclaims into motion. http://www.windofchanges.org/Counterclaims.html “Tubby” and “Moe” Miller et al could appeal the decision to a higher court if they wish to contest the Judge’s opinion
Since the Courts favor the plaintiffs, it is rare to have an MSJ granted. Such a decision would generally mean that the Judge is very certain of the legal correctness of his decision.
If the purpose of the Millers' lawsuit was to silence us and others, it was an incorrect use of the legal system requiring vast amounts of donors' money. As Carl Starrett, Esquire, moderator of the Gentle Wind Victims’ Forum stated, "GWP must have spent several hundred thousand dollars in legal fees and they came up empty." http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/gentlewindvictims/
In addition to the correct application of the law for us, this is an extremely important decision for anyone who believes in an individual's right to speak freely about personal experiences, and to share information of public importance through the Internet without fear of being intimidated, sued, silenced, and harmed financially. Judge Carter’s decision impacts anyone who writes about a group, job, corporation or agency that they at one time had a relationship with.
We are very grateful for the support and encouragement – from a wide variety of individuals and institutions – that we have received throughout this two-year process.
Jim Bergin and Judy GarveyBlue Hill, ME
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Are You Qualified?
by Honesty inwhen i was a devout jw and a loyal worshipper of the fds i always was reminded by the p.o.
to use only brothers who were 'qualified' in the sound department.. so, after i left the group i have asked myself many times, "am i qualified?".
i am a member of one of the largest churches in knoxville, tn.
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Evidently, according to Paul at Galatians 3:27-29 if you have been baptised into Christ you are qualified for almost every role or positin in the Christian congregation.
The problem here is that the WTS applies these verses to the "anointed." See the following from the "United in Worship" book
uw chap. 12 p. 98 The Meaning of Your Baptism ******
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Those who will reign with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom must likewise be baptized into death. (Mark 10:37-40; Col. 2:12) At their death they lay aside forever their human life, as Jesus did. And at their resurrection they join him in heavenly rulership. This is a baptism performed, not by any human, but by God through his heavenly Son.8
Those who are baptized into Jesus’ death are also said to be "baptized into Christ Jesus." By means of holy spirit channeled through Christ they become united to him, their head, as members of his spirit-anointed congregation, his "body." Because that spirit enables them to reflect Christ’s superior personality, it can be said of them that they all become "one person in union with Christ Jesus."—Rom. 6:3-5; 1 Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27, 28; Acts 2:32, 33. -
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My Suggested 2006 Yeartext Scripture
by metatron inin view of the recent mass layoffs at bethel, i recommend that the new yeartext be changed to rev.18:7:.
"i sit a queen and am no widow and i shall never see mourning".. .
metatron
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(Amos 5:5-6) And do not search for Beth'el, and to Gil'gal YOU must not come, and to Be'er-she'ba YOU must not pass over; because Gil'gal itself will without fail go into exile; and as regards Beth'el, it will become something uncanny. 6 Search for Jehovah, and keep living, that he may not become operative just like fire, O house of Joseph, and it may not actually devour, and Beth'el may not be with no one to extinguish [it],
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I can't stand it so I must post this creationist respond if you can
by skyman ini can't stand it i got to post.
the grand canyon actually disprove creationist because granit rock is the toughest of rocks found on earth.
the grand canyon has areas filled only with granit rock.
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Skyman wrote:
I can't stand it I got to post. The Grand canyon Actually disprove Creationist Because Granit Rock is the toughest of rocks found on Earth. The Grand canyon has areas filled only with Granit Rock. No earth flood can cause the Granit to dissolve only time can, only millions of years can do this. Plus if the Canyon did prove Creationist correct then every continent on earth would have at least two Grand Canyon on each continental divide. So am I to believe that only the Western USA had the GREAT FLOOD. Because that is what the Grand Canyon would prove if the creationist are true.
1. It's spelled GRANITE, not GRANIT 2. The primary rock layers in the Grand Canyon, starting from the top are:
Kaibab Limestone Toroweap Formation Coconino Sandstone Hermit Shale Supai Formation Redwall Limestone Mauv Limestone Bright Angel Shale Tapeats Sandstone Vishnu Schist
3. Granite (Zoroaster Granite) is exposed at the very bottom of the canyon
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Pray for death of Apostates
by tsarina ini'm new here, so please forgive me if i'm getting this all wrong.. i read on one of the web pages that the society has written "we should pray for the death of apostates".
i think this was a 2000 watchtower, but to be honest i was so shocked at reading it that i forgot to make a note.. .
can anybody enlighten me please??
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Secondly, I never served as an elder. I was a MS and pioneer. But that is irrelevant, since anyone who has actually been a JW for any length of time knows that word always gets around in the congregation regarding any serious improprieties. Spend one day driving around in a cargroup full of pioneer sisters and you will know everything there is to know and more.
I have to disagree with this one. I served as a MS for 10 years before I was appointed as an elder. I also started as a regular pioneer the same month I was appointed an elder. As a MS, I THOUGH I knew what was going on in the congregation. After I started as an elder, I found out stuff that I never dreamed was going on. I regular pioneered for 5 years and as much as those pioneer sisters knew, they didn't know the half of it. Maybe our body of elders was particularly good at "keeping confidentiality" but I think it is more likely that there is a lot going on in JW congregations that a lot of the rank and file (including pioneer sisters) don't have a clue about.
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What year was the Smoking Prohibition made?
by Confession inanyone know for certain?
was it declared in the watchtower.
have any direct quotes?
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*** w73 6/1 p. 340 Keeping God’s Congregation Clean in the Time of His Judgment ***
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For decades the publications of Jehovah’s witnesses have warned against the use of such addictive products as tobacco. Persons associated with congregations of Jehovah’s witnesses in almost all cases recognize the wrongness of these habits. Newly interested ones, then, should take a firm stand and not postpone matters by asking to be baptized and accepted into the congregation, or to share in presenting information from the platform in their Kingdom Halls, while still in the grip of nicotine or other harmful addiction. As the new order now draws very near, it is assuredly in harmony with God’s Word to take the position that those unwilling to abandon any such harmful addictive practices do not qualify for our baptizing them and recognizing them as approved members of Jehovah’s Christian congregation.
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Actually, to accept such ones into the congregation could prove a disservice to them, salving their consciences. Refusal to accept them can prove a blessing, aiding them to feel seriously the need for decisive action and for preparing themselves for life in God’s new order. By facing up to such challenges one gains a moral victory that brings true strength and confidence in God’s power and willingness to help.
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What, then, of those who in the past were baptized while still using such addictive products as tobacco, other drugs, or who are on some treatment such as the "methadone program" and who continue in such practice? They may now be given a reasonable period of time, such as six months, in which to free themselves of the addiction. So doing, they will show their sincere desire to remain within Jehovah God’s clean congregation of dedicated servants.
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I heard Dr Bob
by mouthy ini know many of you are unbelievers.
and i dont wish to offend you ( honest) but dr bob( i think some of you know him) gave a wonderful communion service at the blue mountains this month.
if any believers would like to hear it get in touch with the blue mountain 570-386-2154. it really helps to see the way the wt twisted this event....
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I know many of you are unbelievers. And I dont wish to offend you ( honest) but Dr Bob( I think some of you know him) Gave a wonderful communion service at the Blue Mountains this month. If any believers would like to hear it get in touch with the Blue Mountain 570-386-2154. It really helps to see the way the WT twisted this event....
Thank you for your kind words, Grace. It was good to have you back there in PA this year. Doing the communion service was an amazing experience.
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I heard Dr Bob
by mouthy ini know many of you are unbelievers.
and i dont wish to offend you ( honest) but dr bob( i think some of you know him) gave a wonderful communion service at the blue mountains this month.
if any believers would like to hear it get in touch with the blue mountain 570-386-2154. it really helps to see the way the wt twisted this event....
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{{{ Warm hug to DocBob }}} Sure miss the old days in yahoo chat. You, me and johnny c!! The glory days babe.
{{{{Hugs to you too sKally}}}} Yeah, I miss the chats on Yahoo. About the time Yahoo did away with them, AOL reformatted their forums and killed most of the conversation there.