Gee, Smily, your relationship is on fast forward, heh? Already had a bible study, but it was just a few days ago you agreed to "look into it". I think you're just yanking our chain. My advice to you - get a life.
Alpheta
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Impossible Situation?Of Course it did not work!
by smily inso i agreed to have a look at all this jw stuff just to save our relationship and after all that iam still not good enough!
well iam sure this is not a surprise to all you wise people here but i still dont understand....i never did think love conquered all...but ....he feels that as he is having doubts it must be wrong..i asked him what was more important-what i believed in or who i really was as a person?
he said i just dont understand...of course it was most important what i believed in and he cannot see himself living his life with anyone who is not fully in the truth!
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Hi everyone
by unhappy ini just wanted to say hi to everyone.
i've recently decided to stop being a jw after being raised as one.
unhappy x. .
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Alpheta
Welcome, Unhappy. As you are now out, I hope you will soon find it within you to change your "name." Glee, Bountifully Happy, Joyful Joyful, all come to mind.
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Islam bashed by Witnesses
by Fleshybirdfodder ini was listening to talk radio the other day and they were discussing the muslims who were taken off an american airlines flight (i believe that was the airline) because they were praying publicly prior to the flight.
one of the individuals, an imam, who was on the flight was being interviewed and in the defense of what he called "moderate islam" proclaimed there is a movement against islam, and specifically mentioned jehovah's witnesses handing out a flyer where they directly misquote the koran to implicate all muslims in 9/11.
is this in the new "the end of false religion is near" tract?
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Alpheta
I think this Iman was mistaken, but JWs are a convenient target. I'm no apologist, but when one religion is wearing a target on its collective back (Muslims) it doesn't take a genius to see that they'll try the old switcheroo to some other even less understood target (JWs) in the eyes of the U.S. public. This is just applying the principles they've learned from dirty American politics. In this incident, I think the JWs are innocent.
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Alpheta
Wow, talk about a close game - 3rd quarter 11:28, LSU 14/ARK 12.
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Is This Weekend A Huge Shopping Time For You???
by minimus inthey say this weekend is the busiest time of the year for shoppers......how many buy most things this weekend (for xmas) and would you say you return most items bought or do you keep them to give as presents??
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Alpheta
I avoid the physical stores as much as possible this time of year, especially the day after Thanksgiving. Sure, the T-day newspaper is crammed with special advertisements of shopping specials, and there are a kajillion people are there the next day too, all nuts! People camping out at midnight and whatever to be the first in line when the stores open for business on Friday. Elbowing your way through legions of rude, irate and tired female shoppers (you never see any men out there doing this silly stuff), carrying too much stuff in too small shopping bags, and sometimes the bags break, spilling your stuff all over kingdom-come, and then some smartass kid comes along and steals something from the pile you're trying to pick up and stuff back into the remaining intact bags. ICK!
I do most of my shopping online these days - and since I'm signed up to receive flyers from most of the retailers, including electronics, I get a heads-up on special sales and discounts. Office Depot, for instance, was running a really great promotion on a laptop (forget which brand), $299 (after discounts and rebates) for in-store buy and $399 (after discounts and rebates) for online purchase of a loaded Lenovo laptop. Got the email the day before T-day and could shop online on T-day. Most of the other retailers and electronics places also offered online shopping on T-day, so I didn't miss any of the big specials, if I was looking for that stuff. Internet, the way to go.
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Now Linda is ill!!
by dedpoet infirst it was her mum in hospital, then it was me, just for a night, though i've been ordered to rest and given 6 weeks off work, and now linda (fullofdoubtnow) is ill. she has a really bad bout of flu, which started yesterday, and i expect she'll be in bed for a few days.
i just fed her some soup, which is about all she can manage at the moment, and she's gone back to sleep now.
she sends her love to everyone on the board,i expect she will be posting again in a few days, but for now, she's confined to bed..
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Alpheta
If your doggie is lying next to Linda so close, I know she's really sick. They always sense it, and snuggle close to give you extra warmth and "moral" support. They are such loving creatures, it is their way.
Chicken soup (homemade is best) is the thing, and as much liquids as she can tolerate, orange juice, cranberry juice, along with plain old water. Get those antioxidents into her system, they'll help her immune system in its battle against that nasty virus. Seems drugs in your country are called by different names than here in the U.S. I found that plain old aspirin worked best for me, reducing fever, aches and pains in the joints and headache. I had a bad bout of the flu in 196-something (another poster mentioned getting sick at the same time, I believe it was a global epidemic), I was in high school and got the Hong Kong flu, I think it was called, and was so sick I thought it would be better to die - flat on my back for 4 days at least, and isolated as best we could from the rest of my family - they tucked me up on the sofa in the "front room" and draped sheets across the doorway into the other "living room" to keep me apart from the rest of the house, and no one but my mother was allowed in, but the smell of food cooking in the kitchen made me gag. Dry heaves are the worst! Throwing up when there's nothing left in you to throw up. Super Yech. I don't think I moved off that couch for a week, never even had to go pee, that was REALLY a bad sign, I'm sure :) And I swear I was growing a second brain, my head hurt so much. Crazy dreams too, during this period I had my first "reincarnation" dream, I saw myself dying in a volcanic eruption as a Grecian priestess. Well! Had another go-round in the mid 70's with the Swine Flu I think that was called, and then I REALLY wanted to die, I was so miserable, to this day I recall that time with dread. But I do remember dragging myself off the couch to go to the bathroom to pee, which was better than what I'd done back in 196- and I survived then so I figured I would survive again. I was living with a roommate in an apartment by then and didn't have mom to care for me. Sigh. I was camped out on the sofa because the one t.v. we owned was in the "living room" - that was before the time people had a t.v. in every room of the house. Since then I've been ill on occasion but never that incapacitated, knock on wood and thank goddess!
Linda, you'll get through this, just take your time recovering and don't try to rush it or push yourself out of bed. When your legs get itchy and your feet start twitching on their own, then you'll know it's time to take a walk-about the room. Then go back to bed for another week and let Trev take care of you.
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True Lies—and the Watchtower Society
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; } .style2 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } .style3 {color: #0000cc} --> true liesand the watchtower society during a recent telephone conversation a friend mention-.
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write the reasoning book.
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Alpheta
That book was one of the first trashed when I left the JWs. I always thought the reasoning - if you could call it that - was specious at best. I never used it in the door to door work. I discovered early on that a sincere, heart-felt approach where I looked the person in the eye worked really well, and it didn't make a lot of difference what I said when I was presenting the magazines or whatever the offer was for the month - I usually did well as long as I kept it succinct and it made sense. As my doubts developed I scaled-down this seeming ability to reach people. Thank goddess!
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The truth about the donation arrangement
by Wolfgirl ini never knew this...just found it today.
made me giggle.. payment of sales tax on literatureon 17 january1990 the u.s. supreme court made a ruling that sales tax must be paid on religious literature.
the following month, a letter from the watchtower society went out to all congregations stating that there would no longer be a set price for literature but that they would be given to the public on a donation basis.
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Alpheta
I became associated with the JWs in 1993, and became an unbaptized published in 1994, got dipped in 1996 and left for good in October, 2003. During my entire time associated with the JWs, I never asked anyone for a contribution in the door to door work. Never. I refused to do so, on the grounds that the WTBTS was trying to spread God's true word, and asking for money for such work was, to my mind, filthy - and unnecessary. I believed the hype - I believed that God would support his own true works. I put monthly contributions into the local congregation and WWW boxes at the Kingdom Hall $60 a month ($30/$30 split). Occasionally, very rarely, a person would volunteer some money for a placement. I put any such monies into the WWW box at the KH, but in the years I did the door to door work, it probably totalled all of $6 US. Not even chump change.
It was only after we got connected to the internet at the office, and I started spending my lunch hours up in the law library (where the only internet connected computers were at the time) and started learning my way around the internet, how to do searches, and such, that I found out about the Swaggert law suit, the WTBTS friend of the court brief(s), etc. It didn't take a genius to discern the real reason for the WTBTS changing it's arrangement from charging a set amount for its literature to the "donation" arrangement. That was less than 3 years after I got baptized. By March, 1999, I got my first desktop at home (a Gateway, great machine, since passed on to a relative). It was thanks to the internet that I learned about Silent Lambs - I missed the t.v. show about the scandal in the JW congregations (see my bio for details) and it was somewhat over a year later that I left for good. The sexual abuse scandal was the "straw that broke the camel's back", so to speak.
Thank goodness for all the websites that have published this information - put it out there for public consumption. If the WTBTS was really God's organization on earth, it would not be afraid of the internet. In my opinion, it's fighting a losing battle, just like the so-called "Peoples' Republic of China" is fighting a losing battle, trying to keep it's citizens away from the information available on the internet. The Truth WILL come out. Unfortunately, it will take awhile, perhaps a long while, and in the meantime, thousands of people may be sucked in, thousands more people will be hurt by the duplicity of the WTBTS. The bastards of the GB can't croak fast enough to suit me, but even as they die off, they are being replaced by phoney "annointed".
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Internet is bad...but good to collect $$$
by behemot indon't know if this has been posted before... in france jws can contribute online from this site:.
https://donsenligne-tj.org/accueil.asp.
...looks like internet is not that bad after all.. behemot.
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Alpheta
So is this a way of trying to circumvent the tax laws in France, which (as I understand it) were applied to the JWs to their consternation? Where is this money going - to England? to New York? I wonder what the legal issues are - can the French government claim that since these are "French" contributions they are subject to the tax laws of France?
Has anyone checked to see if this kind of internet contribution is available at other WT websites? It may be standard procedure, just part of the standard hypocricy of WT practice.
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Takes a long time to cure homosexuality
by Norm inapparently the process of degaying pastor ted haggard will be a long one.. takes up to 5 years according to the ungaying pro.. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/23/dobson-haggard-cure-gay/.
poor haggard, wonder what he will do about his sexuality during those 5 years?.
norm.
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Alpheta
Yeah, well, what about his wife and children? Does the fact that he deceived them mean nothing? It's all chuckle chuckle with some of you posters. But real people have been hurt here, and I don't mean the asshole himself, who lied and cheated and schemed. I'm GLAD he got busted, and I'm GLAD he's going to be supposedly "reprogrammed" by a bunch a so-called Xtian hypocrites. He deserves everything he gets. His family does not.