Renee,
Ask your grandparents if they would come to your funeral if you died, and if they say yes, then ask them to explain why.
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55It sucks to be hurt on purpose ...
by reneeisorym ini sent out wedding invitations last week.
apparently they caused my parents to get a divorce.
i got an e-mail from my mother saying that she left my dad, is filing for divorce, and that dad thinks she left because she wants to go to my wedding and he won't let her.
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Secrets
by Carmen ini found this board and have been reading what a lot of people have to say.
i've found it very useful, interesting and informative.
i'm 19 and am in a relationship with a jw who is 22. i know that this is a subject that has probably been posted many times but i wanted to see if anybody could offer me any advice.. i'm catholic myself and studying to be social worker with a major in theology.
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dust
Carmen,
Noone should tell you how your boyfriend will react to being shunned. We are all different. My wife (ex-JW) know that she would be shunned, but still she DA'd herself, moved together with me and later married me. She is a marvellous woman, and she knew what would happen when she chose me above them.
I don't quite know why she never decided to return to the organisation, it's probably a combination of things. One of the things was: She learnt to think for herself (I wouldn't let her "agree" with me just to agree -- I insisted that she make up her own opinions, and here I'm talking about everyday situations as well as religion), and one of many nice consequences of this is that she now knows what we all know about the teachings of the WTS. But of course it is never pleasant to discover that a huge part of your life (including huge parts of your identity) has been built on misconceptions and information control.
I have written a few posts on the topic earlier, please see if anything of it can be of use for you. -
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If "I laugh every time he acts clever" means that I laugh every time he pretends to be clever, then does "he acts white" mean that he pretends to be white? How can anyone pretend to be that pale? I mean, I can pretend to be sad or happy, but how can I pretend to be white without actually becoming white (e.g. by using paint?). "The house acts white, it pretends to be white, but really it isn't."
Hm... But if someone acts wisely, then maybe to act whitely would mean to act in the same way as white acts. Which means that white isn't a colour, it's a creature. Which means that I'll never have dare to wash my clothes again. Because... they could "become white", and I don't want any creatures that close to my body.
Somehow I am glad English isn't my native language. These adjectives and adverbs really scare me... -
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I have a talk!
by Zico inabout 7 months ago i asked the school overseer to take me off the school, as i was 'busy with work exams' things have been good since then (well, sort of...) no talks for 7 months!
but then, my wonderful father, decides to ask the school overseer to put me back on!
he puts me back on!
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Would a God of love kill 6 billions for disagreeing? Well, according to Romans 2:14-16 God won't do that. So maybe one doesn't have to be a JW afterall... You must only obey the Law. Hm... Which Law? Have a look at Romans 13:8-10. So, according to Paul, everyone knows how to love, and that's the important thing. Also relevant: 1 Sam 16:7.
In other words, no matter what God decides to do, the JWs have a problem with their teaching. If he kills, he has to kill all those children that aren't baptised because they are not mature enough, and he will have to kill those who according to Romans 2 and 13 shouldn't be killed. If he doesn't kill, then you don't have to be a JW to survive. -
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Origins of the stake instead of the Cross
by wab07 ini have been a member on this site for a few months now and this is my first post.
anyways, my mother is a loyal jw and i often email her asking questions hoping to give rise to contradictions in the her beliefs.
i recently asked her when and why the cross was replaced with the stake.
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dust
Junction-Guy: Exactly my point. :)
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The Standfasters
by dust ini don't know where to ask, but this section is probably better than both the medical section and the entertainment section.
:) .
does anyone know what eventually happened to the standfasters?
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The ones that broke away from the Bible Students during WWI because they (the Standasters) wanted to be politically neutral. Klein writes about the incident in the WT Oct 1, 1984. The only information I find about them is this schism, but I can't seem to find anything on if, how or when their organization came to an end.
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The Standfasters
by dust ini don't know where to ask, but this section is probably better than both the medical section and the entertainment section.
:) .
does anyone know what eventually happened to the standfasters?
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I don't know where to ask, but this section is probably better than both the Medical section and the Entertainment section. :)
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beliefs about 1914/1918 prior to current teaching
by dust ini saw a scan only a few weeks ago, i think it was from the golden age, and it stated something completely different than what is taught now.
but i don't remember where i saw it...
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Thanks for clarifying the matter for me! As mentioned, I think I saw a scan here a few weeks ago, where this was mentioned in a concise form ("The Jehovah's Witnesses believe..." or something), and I thought I might try to find the Norwegian version somewhere.
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beliefs about 1914/1918 prior to current teaching
by dust ini saw a scan only a few weeks ago, i think it was from the golden age, and it stated something completely different than what is taught now.
but i don't remember where i saw it...
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I saw a scan only a few weeks ago, I think it was from The Golden Age, and it stated something completely different than what is taught now. But I don't remember where I saw it...
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Origins of the stake instead of the Cross
by wab07 ini have been a member on this site for a few months now and this is my first post.
anyways, my mother is a loyal jw and i often email her asking questions hoping to give rise to contradictions in the her beliefs.
i recently asked her when and why the cross was replaced with the stake.
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dust
The cross is a pagan symbol, so the Romans would NEVER have used a cross, you know... BTW, did you ever notice that the stake resembles a phallic symbol as used in pagan religions?