I was driving home today and ELO's "Mr. Blue Sky" came on. I sang my ass off (Closed windows of course)
Whats your guilty pleasure song?
i was driving home today and elo's "mr. blue sky" came on.
i sang my ass off (closed windows of course).
whats your guilty pleasure song?
I was driving home today and ELO's "Mr. Blue Sky" came on. I sang my ass off (Closed windows of course)
Whats your guilty pleasure song?
i've nearly finished reading the 2 ray franz books and i've been on this forum for a few months and i've wondered about this:.
on both the books and the forum much is said about the watchtower lying ,misleading ,being a false prophet ,having no conscience toward the after effects of decisions they have made that have effected peoples lives ,even sometimes tragically.. well ,ok ,but my observation is this :very rarely ,if at all, does anyone say directly that the watchtower is lead and influenced by satan.does this mean that :.
ones have lost faith in god /religion because of the watchtower org and now don't really believe in satan now.
I heard Satan used to run the org but he went Apostate over the whole UN/Harlot thing...even HE couldnt believe it........He is a Scientologist now.
i've been reading here for a while now.
i kept having problems logging in...so i hope that is over now.. i'm a fader, 5 years this summer.
my family came in in the 30's, and most all still are in... po's, elders, reg pios, pillars...you know the story.
From one Newbie Ex-Lurker to another Welcome Let the free thinking begin.
My brother suffere-d-s? from deep depression I believe as a result of repressed sexual guilt. The guilt trips over sexual feelings (primarily masturbation) we all heard didnt faze me but it seemed to drive my brother deeper and deeper down. To this day he has real problems with anything even remotely sensual, even a slightly suggestive word sends him into an internal word somewhere. Just the type of guy they want in Bethel....shesh
watchtower camaraderie
after having spent years as one of jehovah's witnesses.
the next day?going back to the organization .
It has been years since I left but when I did I left my family and all of my friends and my job. It took me a few years to get myself back on my feet. I was even technically homeless for 8 months preferring to live off of the kindness of almost strangers rather than submit to the mind control at home.
Trust me when I tell you that it gets easier and easier and better and better. That light at the end of the tunnel is NOT a train. Start by finding out who you are, what motivates you. Be completly selfish for awhile until you find what fills you with joy. Believe that friends are EVERYWHERE in this world and that all in all its a great place. Sure thier are some "hammers" in it but so what, most people are just as lost as you and I and all the dubs at the hall.
Try to put down the judgemental view that most of us suffered from when we first left. If you dont you will never allow yourself to accept others and make meaningful relationships. If you have an activity that you enjoy, sports,movies etc..whatever..find a group activity in that area of interest to join to make new friends. If you dont have any current "outside" interests give yourself time..they will come to light along with your new freedom.
Most of all...LIVE LIKE YOU MEAN IT. Dont waste another day. Armaggedon wont happen but we will all die some day so dont waste another second waiting or worrying about any of that mind polution. Get on with life....its waiting for you to live it.
If you find that you need any personal support please feel free to message me or anyone that offers.
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what rules did you find, you couldn't help breaking as a witness?.
i swore sometimes, got me and a mate drunk, copied software e.t.c (caesars things to caesar), celebrated a birthday/christmas or two...went against some stuff we were told not to do in the young people ask book...erm.... how about you?
I asked elders logical questions.....what was I thinking!!!!
well, it's been about 6 months or so since i've turned in a time report and things are heating up a bit.
i still attend the meetings with my wife - i am still "visible" - but i have not gone out in service for a conspicuous amount of time.
just this afternoon the po called and wanted to meet with me.
Tell them you have Bird Flu and must be away for 6 months to be sure you dont spread it. Then buy chickens and let them roam freely on your property to keep the visits down. If all of that fails...plastic surgery and fake your death...or you could tell them what you really believe and live with the results of telling the truth.
Happy B Day
please escuse the obvious stones lyrical referance but thats the first thing that came to mind.
i am a 44 yo male fader from pennsylvania.
been faded for 22 years or so and been lurking and reading all of your posts for 6 or so months.
Friends,
Thank you all for the welcomes and kind words. I am blown away!
Thanks also for the lyrical replies...heres one back at ya:
"Im free to do what I want, any old time.
Im free to sing my song, knowing its outta trend
Im free to choose who I see ,any old time
Im free to bring who I choose, any old time
Im free any old time, to get what I want"
- Asheron
please escuse the obvious stones lyrical referance but thats the first thing that came to mind.
i am a 44 yo male fader from pennsylvania.
been faded for 22 years or so and been lurking and reading all of your posts for 6 or so months.
Thank you all for the welcomes. While it doesnt make me feel better that some of you have been or are going through this, it does make me feel less alone. My wife cant relate to this issue as much as she tries so I cant really talk to her in depth too often about it. I consider myself a fully realized man and I also believe myself to be realatively free of the old demons and fears but this family thing is a tough one to put down. The suitcases are light but the luggage is till there if you know what I mean.