Posts by Asheron

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London

by bikerchic in

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lookie what i just got today from a friend who just got back from england:.

makes number 13 in my collection.

so far i have, hollywood, la jolla, san deigo, las vegas, aspen, honolulu, new orleans, orlando, phoenix, nashville, athens and madrid.. i ask everyone i know who's traveling to get me one of these plus the ones i get myself while traveling.. does anyone else here collect from hard rock cafe?

Asheron

I visited Hard Rock on my first trip to London. I am now a huge fan. So huge that this is what I did to my basement.

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How Many JW's Does It Take To 'Change A Lightbulb'?

by Outaservice in

Asheron

ZERO

Why bother. The end of this old system of things is right around the corner. What would it hurt to be in the dark for a few more days. Heck, the WTBT has been in the dark for over 100 years and it aint hurt them none!

or

Why bother. Just move into a new house with working lightbulbs after Jehovah kills everyone...YEA

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Is 2006 the new 1975 for the Society?

by truthseeker in

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think about it - never in the history of the society have there been so many changes, annoucements and campaigns than in 2006. only in 1975, could the mass hysteria of the imminent end of the world be said to equal or surpass this year's activity.. what has been the case this year?.

1) mass lay-off of hundreds of bethelites.

2) awake!

Asheron

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends

Cold and misty morning, I heard a warning borne in the air
About an age of power where no one had an hour to spare,
Where the seeds have withered, silent children shivered, in the cold
Now their faces captured in the lenses of the jackals for gold.
Ill be there
Ill be there
I will be there.

Suffering in silence, theyve all been betrayed.
They hurt them and they beat them, in a terrible way,
Praying for survival at the end of the day.
There is no compassion for those who stay.
Ill be there
Ill be there
I will be there.

There must be someone who can set them free:
To take their sorrow from this odyssey
To help the helpless and the refugee
To protect whats left of humanity.
Cant you see
Cant you see
Cant you see.

Ill be there
Ill be there
I will be there;
To heal their sorrow
To beg and borrow
Fight tommorow.

Step inside! hello! weve the most amazing show
Youll enjoy it all we know
Step inside! step inside!

Weve got thrills and shocks, supersonic fighting cocks.
Leave your hammers at the box
Come inside! come inside!
Roll up! roll up! roll up!
See the show!

Left behind the bars, rows of bishops heads in jars
And a bomb inside a car
Spectacular! spectacular!

If you follow me theres a speciality
Some tears for you to see
Misery, misery,
Roll up! roll up! roll up!
See the show!

Next upon the bill in our house of vaudeville
Weve a stripper in a till
What a thrill! what a thrill!
And not content with that, with our hands behind our backs,
We pull jesus from a hat,
Get into that! get into that!
Roll up! roll up! roll up!
See the show!

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
Were so glad you could attend
Come inside! come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
Be careful as you pass.
Move along! move along!

Come inside, the shows about to start
Guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured youll get your moneys worth
The greatest show in heaven, hell or earth.
Youve got to see the show, its a dynamo.
Youve got to see the show, its rock and roll ....

Soon the gypsy queen in a glaze of vaseline
Will perform on guillotine
What a scene! what a scene!
Next upon the stand will you please extend a hand
To alexanders ragtime band
Roll up! roll up! roll up!
See the show!

Performing on a stool weve a sight to make you drool
Seven virgins and a mule
Keep it cool. keep it cool.
We would like it to be known the exhibits that were shown
Were exclusively our own,
All our own. all our own.
Come and see the show! come and see the show! come and see the show!
See the show!

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How deep did you search to finally quit being a JW?

by JH in

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in my case, i never did much research or read alot of apostate literature to get out of the jw religion.

all i looked at was their heart and how they treated me.

that alone spoke for itself..

Asheron

Moomin,

Thanks for the compliment Moomin. I was a little to "cerebral" for a 17 year old in the view of some. I may have stayed longer if the teatment I recieved was more accepting but in retrospect I am glad I saw the true colors early on.

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How deep did you search to finally quit being a JW?

by JH in

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in my case, i never did much research or read alot of apostate literature to get out of the jw religion.

all i looked at was their heart and how they treated me.

that alone spoke for itself..

Asheron

I didnt do any research prior to leaving. I asked some elders some questions and that led me to the door.

Here are a few of the questions:

1. Did Cain and Abel marry thier sisters? If so, why is it now considerered a sin to marry even a cousin? I asked this in respose to an Elders statement that morals are absolute and Jehovah doesnt "change his face"

2. Why is having an organ transplant a matter of consience when having a blood transfusion is wrong? There are most certainly blood cells in the transplanted organ when it is placed in your body. Do you violate Jehovahs law if you only take a few cells or is it ok if you dont know about them?

3. Why cant we talk to a DF person if Jesus talked to a prostitute? Surly a person commiting intentional sin is less moral than someone than someone who made a one or two sin mistake?

4. How can we be sure we are "Jehovah Chosen People" if some of our teachings are wrong? (regarding New Light) What percentage of our Bible understanding has to be correct to be considered Jah's people? 100%? 90% 80% ? What if some of the core beliefs are wrong? Are they more important that smaller things?

I did not ask these in a confrontational manner and I truely wanted some answers. I was 17 years old when I asked these and I had many more but the answer was the same to every one. Trust in Jehovah and dont worry about these things. As I asked more questions the Elders started treating me colder and colder and finally wouldnt talk to me any more. In fact one of them told my mom "he is to smart for his own good and he will be destoyed at armageddon if he doesnt become more humble". One of the Elders told my mom that she should throw me out of the house if I continued to question the teachings. She did.

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The pro's and con's of being in the truth

by The wanderer in

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it is understandable that individuals who read this thread will more.

than likely become offended and to those who feel as such i will .

apologize.

Asheron

Your right wanderer There are alot of "pros" and "cons" My widowed mother was "Pro-ffesionaly conned" into donating all of my fathers life insurance money to help build a new hall while I and my brother went to school hungry. My brother was "Pro-ffesionally conned" into believing he was a dirty minded person for having normal sexual thoughts and now he is dysfuntional. I was "Pro-ffesionally conned" out of a colledge education. Right now my poor brother is being "Pro-ffesionally conned" into going to bethel to scrub toilets because he was denied any training or schooling in life.

In total my family was conned out of 75 years of freedom.

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feeling blah - angry at the cult...

by EyesOpened in

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i posted awhile back, been "lurking" pretty much daily over the past months and from reading everyone's posts - i actually have gotten to know some of you... sort of... if you read my profile you will know i was a lifer, pretty much knee deep in the 'borg (picking up the slang.... i stopped cold turkey last fall - didn't go to memorial, special assembly day, district convention, circuit assembly... no field service in almost a year... these are all firsts... and i am 40 years old.... guess what, i have ignored phone calls, messages from the cong elders, everyone was panic'd for the first 3 months or so... then it all stopped... no calls... they have written me off i guess... of course it has helped that i moved 45 minutes south of my congo, back to my home town - where everyone in the congs around here know me... the rumor mill has told them something is up, but since i'm not df or da, they don't know how to act - so they just ignore me.... i just need to vent abit - feeling down lately because of the things i have learned - feeling betrayed by my parents for joining such a cult.

blaming jw's for ruining my sister's lives, blaming jw's for wasting my life... i want to go to a meeting and yell during the public talk about how foolish everyone is for belonging to this cult... .

it seems i have accepted the loss all of my conditional friends - hundreds of them in central indiana... i see them at the mall, at restaurants and they look right past me... kinda funny now, but it still hurts when my former friends - even the best man at my wedding - refuses to talk to me or even call to ask what is going on and why i stopped... i am invisible.

Asheron

Welcome Brother. Let the free thinking begin.

Dont let the anger win but by all means let it have a place. It will fade and be replaced by calm eventually.

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How do you answer this question??

by LuciousJ in

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ok, i'm now da'd as many of you already know.

it's so fresh that my stomach turns everytime the subject comes up about religion.

however, something that does puzzle me a bit.......is how do you answer people when they ask you the question "what religion are you?

Asheron

I answer that I am an Agnostic Skeptic and a practicing Humanist. If they are still there after that answer than maybe..just maybe... I can have a further discussion on what that means. I truly hate labels and I get tired of the human species need to always classify and "herd-ise" everyone. When we label ourselves or allow others to do so we self limit our own capabilities.

Did I just go off on a tangent?

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