Posts by Asheron

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Have I learned nothing?????? Rant

by Asheron in

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i am sitting here in my living room really considering my current state of de jdubification.

i have been out of the mess for many years but some of the mindset remains in a dark corner of my mind.

while the luggage is light i still carry the bags and some days the jw, "im always right "part starts comming up.

Have I learned nothing?????? Rant

by Asheron in

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friends

i am sitting here in my living room really considering my current state of de jdubification.

i have been out of the mess for many years but some of the mindset remains in a dark corner of my mind.

while the luggage is light i still carry the bags and some days the jw, "im always right "part starts comming up.

I am sitting here in my living room really considering my current state of de JDubification. I have been out of the mess for many years but some of the mindset remains in a dark corner of my mind. While the luggage is light I still carry the bags and some days the JW, "IM ALWAYS RIGHT "part starts comming up. Many of us have been involved in hot topic posts regarding our beliefs over the past week. Amoung them, Perry, Apostate Kate, Sad Emo, Tetra, Seeker and the list goes on. What is occuring to me this evening is the amount of emotion I and most other posters invest in our beliefs. While this is natural it can lead to hurt feelings, misunderstandings and worse.

I want to publically state to everyone involved in all of those posts and anyone reading is that I Love each and every one of you regardless of your belief. You are all my brothers and sisters in this journey of life and regardless of our differance in views, nothing can change that.

At the end of the day, as the Beatles said "All we need is Love"

Asheron

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SCORE !!!! WOOO HOOO

by Asheron in

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i just scored 2 floor seats to see the police at msg in nyc through the fan site presale!!!!!

woooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooo

Asheron

lmao...good one! That would be awesome if they broke out in fisticuffs at the end of the show.

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Need Some Education On EVOLUTION? Start Here! Perry & Axal take note!

by Seeker4 in

perry started a thread on evolution/atheism, which from his very first post showed an incredible ignorance of evolution and natural selection.

axal's comments on the thread were just asinine - how all the atheists in his area were at the strip clubs fighting over women and fornicating!

i have to say that i live in a small town and have been here for half a century, and i couldn't name five people that i know here who are atheist.

Asheron

Sad Emo,

First of all, Happy Valentines Day My latest wood for this fire will be in red.

Then why do you put scientists and smart in inverted commas - are they less scientific than the ones Tetra listed? But yes, I'll grant that the intent of each list may have been different.

Im my opionion, they are using thier PHD, Doctorate etc to somehow make a public statement that thier belief in God and disbelief in evolution should hold more weight as a result of thier training. Read thier testimonies, I have, and I find it unsettling that they (in alot of cases) have stepped down from thier reasearch, teaching posts after finding God. THank you for granting that the lists are different.

If your only response to as to why you dont believe in macro evolution is "its still an unproven theory!" than I am confident you will not change any minds if that is your intent.

Not my intent at all, I don't know what gave you that idea, I'm still enquiring, did you notice that I wrote in spite of evidence before "it's still an unproven theory"? Like RAF has said frequently in her posts, you're free to believe what you want, I'm trying to learn for myself. What's the deal for you with me writing that anyway - even YOU have said evolution is unproven, why have a go at me for saying the same?

We are all learning, the more I learn the less I know I know...However I NEVER said it was an unproven theory. I said I agreed it was a theory. See below for defininition of a theory.

In science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation.

So let me get his straight, "literal bible creationists and evolutionists are "close minded" but people that believe like you in a non literal creation account but dont believe in MACRO evolution think outside the box?

Did you notice that I wrote some evolutionists before closed minded? I try not to do labelling. Stop pulling bits of my sentences out of context.

Ok so which evolutionists are closed minded??? lol Yes indeed I heard an inferance loud and clear in your statement.

Sad Emo, put down the brush you are using to paint people. You know nothing about how open minded I or other posters are from reading a few posts in an evolution debate.

Asheron, if you took my comment personally that's your problem. I did and okay its my problem.

I haven't 'painted' any posters at all, that is merely your misguided perception.

Maybe, but you did lob a non-specific judgement against unnamed Evolutionists and literal earth creationists. Cant you see how in this forum that it most certainly would be taken personally? So I ask again, which closed minded evolutionists did you have in mind?

You haven't given any response to my previous questions on this thread, and you aren't being exactly constructive by insulting my intelligence now - however little of it you think I have. Your assumption. I have no idea of the level of your intelligence nor have I insulted you in any way. If you took that out my comments than that is your problem.

I am not prepared to continue with this particular dialogue so if you feel the need to insult me further don't expect any reply.

What previous question are you reffering too, I truly must have missed it. I will gladly reply to any question I may have an opionion on.

If you've nothing constructive to say to me on the subject of evolution -

Ummm okay.

Asheron

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Need Some Education On EVOLUTION? Start Here! Perry & Axal take note!

by Seeker4 in

perry started a thread on evolution/atheism, which from his very first post showed an incredible ignorance of evolution and natural selection.

axal's comments on the thread were just asinine - how all the atheists in his area were at the strip clubs fighting over women and fornicating!

i have to say that i live in a small town and have been here for half a century, and i couldn't name five people that i know here who are atheist.

Asheron

Sad Emo,

You posted.

"These were the points I was trying to make to Skyking - but he appears to have switched off at that point - maybe trying to define the word 'eternal' was just too much for him To me it says that some evolutionists (don't forget, in spite of evidence, it's still an unproven theory!) are as closed minded and unwilling to think outside the box as the 'literal Bible account' creationists. (On top of this what's with the biased treatment against Apostate Kate? She posts a long list of scientists and gets flamed, Tetra does the same and gets thanked. Go figure)"

Apostate Kate's list is a list she presents to show how some "scientists" believe in creation. She tried to prove a point by weight of authority that "smart" people believe creation too. That smart people believe in creation is not in doubt nor was it ever stated.

Tetra did not "do the same". Tetra's post was a list of the evidence in response to the many "theres no evidence for evolution" posts that have been delivered by posters like Apostate Kate and RAF.

If your only response to as to why you dont believe in macro evolution is "its still an unproven theory!" than I am confident you will not change any minds if that is your intent.

So let me get his straight, "literal bible creationists and evolutionists are "close minded" but people that believe like you in a non literal creation account but dont believe in MACRO evolution think outside the box?

Sad Emo, put down the brush you are using to paint people. You know nothing about how open minded I or other posters are from reading a few posts in an evolution debate.

PS: I keep an open mind but not so open my brain falls out.

Asheron

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SCORE !!!! WOOO HOOO

by Asheron in

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i just scored 2 floor seats to see the police at msg in nyc through the fan site presale!!!!!

woooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooo

Asheron

I just scored 2 floor seats to see The Police at MSG in NYC through the fan site presale!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Need Some Education On EVOLUTION? Start Here! Perry & Axal take note!

by Seeker4 in

perry started a thread on evolution/atheism, which from his very first post showed an incredible ignorance of evolution and natural selection.

axal's comments on the thread were just asinine - how all the atheists in his area were at the strip clubs fighting over women and fornicating!

i have to say that i live in a small town and have been here for half a century, and i couldn't name five people that i know here who are atheist.

Asheron

Im not sure but I think that one in the back is an Evolutionist and if Im not mistaken he is about to fling some poo.

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EVOLUTION Tour at AMNH & Carl Sagan on God, NEW Book!

by Seeker4 in

below are links to a ny times video on the new human origins exhibit at the american museum of natural history, (the one i posted the link about that has been quite an active evolution thread!

) and below that a link to an article in the times on sagan's new book.

warning!

Asheron

Lonelysheep

I am up for a trip to the city to check it out and then maybe the Met. I love the Egyptology department.

Let me know when!

Asheron

BTW Did you say Carl Sagans NEW??? book? And just when you thought there was no life after death, Carl comes back and writes a book! That crafty bastard.

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One Minute After You Die?

by Outaservice in

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we have various types of people on this board, some believers in god, others atheists, some agnostics, and others still jw's at heart.. in your opinion, what do you believe happens to a person one minute after they die?

how about if they are good or bad?.

outaservice ( inquiring minds want to know) .

Asheron

You mean Im gonna die? no...no......nooo.....nnnooooooo

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Who knows and I hope you know before I do!

Asheron

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Need Some Education On EVOLUTION? Start Here! Perry & Axal take note!

by Seeker4 in

perry started a thread on evolution/atheism, which from his very first post showed an incredible ignorance of evolution and natural selection.

axal's comments on the thread were just asinine - how all the atheists in his area were at the strip clubs fighting over women and fornicating!

i have to say that i live in a small town and have been here for half a century, and i couldn't name five people that i know here who are atheist.

Asheron

Creationists,

WARNING THIS IS NOT SCIENCE BUT PERSONAL EXPERIANCE

Go find a Zoo http://www.colszoo.org/animalareas/aforest/bonobo.html that has a Bonobo monkey in residence. Get the head Zoologist to let you interact with it. Come back here and tell me that we dont share a cousin somewhere in the past.

We share 98% of our DNA with them.

Asheron