A rather emotional experience to read. I for one was not in support of going on your last thread. But it seemed to accomplish exactly what you hoped it would. Perhaps this is closure now. Good for you.
One other thought (though you have probably already considered this); Perhaps one more phone call to your mother today; or even a letter, expressing everything you feel and have felt, to wrap everything up.
" I was very hurt to see you cry mom, but please remember, you chose to have nothing to do with me. I dis not have to be this way"....
Posts by Vinny
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97I went to the Memorial.
by RichieRich ini'm just going to start at the beginning.. i was anticipating the memorial all day.
i was nervous but excited, kind of like standing in line for a roller coaster.. ok. so erika gets ready at her house, and i get ready at mine.
i'm wearing a black suit with a light green shirt, and a tie that had hues of green and yellow in it.
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WHO IS THE INJURED PARTY? What is wrong with this doctrine?
by Terry inwho was the injured party?
in the garden of eden when both adam and his wife, eve rebelled against instructions from their landlord, jehovah.. "in the day you eat of it (the fruit) you shall surely die.".
adam and eve ate of it.
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Hello Proplog,
It is late and I have been typing much today. So I hope a quick reply will do for now.
First of all, if your Great grandfather laid down those specific rules, and your grandfather then broke those rules and subsequently knowingly forfeited his money, then I would not consider that as being unfair at all. Maybe not a happy-time occasion, but fair enough. The money was never really yours to begin with. So what if you live a life of poverty. GET A JOB!
But more importantly, you actually have the story wrong here.
The fact is the Creator has ADDED another element entirely to this scenario that you have omitted in your parable. He has in actuality said this: Yes it is true that your forfather has forfeited what could have been yours my son. Unfortunately, you will not receive today what you could have received from him had he followed our agreement. But let me suggest this to you instead; If YOU will do as I ask of you today (unlike your own father before), then I will not only give you that full inheritance and then some, but I will also grant you eternal life in beautiful conditions without any of today's many problems. How does this sound to you?
You see Proplog, this is what the Creator of all things is offering today. True, he has allowed what Adam lost to affect us now, today. But this is only temporary, so the bible tells us. But more importantly, He has also made arrangements to correct the situation as well as promised EVEN MORE than what is out there for us now, IF we as individuals are willing to simply walk with Him today.
Now THAT sounds like a pretty fair deal to me.
In essence Proplog, the full offer is still really there and on the table, only delayed a litle bit, with an explanation to go with it.
I'd say that sounds more than good to me.
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WHO IS THE INJURED PARTY? What is wrong with this doctrine?
by Terry inwho was the injured party?
in the garden of eden when both adam and his wife, eve rebelled against instructions from their landlord, jehovah.. "in the day you eat of it (the fruit) you shall surely die.".
adam and eve ate of it.
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Answering the second part of your comment:
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WHO IS THE INJURED PARTY? What is wrong with this doctrine?
by Terry inwho was the injured party?
in the garden of eden when both adam and his wife, eve rebelled against instructions from their landlord, jehovah.. "in the day you eat of it (the fruit) you shall surely die.".
adam and eve ate of it.
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Vinny
Hello Fifi,
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"Think again. [This time--use your own intellect] to parse this very real problem of injustice as portrayed in Genesis" (brackets mine).
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WHO IS THE INJURED PARTY? What is wrong with this doctrine?
by Terry inwho was the injured party?
in the garden of eden when both adam and his wife, eve rebelled against instructions from their landlord, jehovah.. "in the day you eat of it (the fruit) you shall surely die.".
adam and eve ate of it.
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Terry says:...."Tell whatever story you like, I say. Just, don't pass off your own story, your own understanding, your own prejudice or imagination as a representation of an actual event."
If you feel it's all fiction, then by all means tell people just that. I for one will not tell you what to tell others about it or what to believe. What I WILL do however, is tell you just WHY I may disagree with you, and WHY I may believe differently. Which I have done here. So Terry, you can get off of that high horse you you seem to enjoy riding and EAT your own arrogant advice above. -
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Angry, humiliated and in pain
by brunnhilde indubs just stopped by.
saw my husband working outside and literally chased him around the back of the house and pounded and called through the sliding glass door.
when we ignored it, he went around to the front and pounded and called through that door.
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I disassociated one year ago, though my wife has faded for 10 months. She does talk to them when they stop by our biz location. However, whenever they ask ANY kind spiritual questions, she simply tells them straight up, " I don't want to talk about it, I do not have freedom of speech".
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The Question Non-Jws hate to hear! (Unless they're athiests)
by Mad indid jesus have a god that he worshipped?
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Kiddieboy-A says:.. ."Its called "Evolution", numb-nuts....oh I forgot, they dont teach that course at the "Awake University" of Janitorial Science!"
Abiogenesis perhaps? Some primordial soup?
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Gene Smalley and the Watchtower's Blood Transfusion Doctrine
by Dogpatch ingene smalley and the watchtower's blood transfusion doctrine.
randy: hi, is this gene?.
watchtower's blood doctrine?.
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The blood doctrine is primarily why I left. I have investigated this subject very thoroughly. I have debated this subject with JW's many times. The final conclusion is just bad news for the WT Society. They are WRONG on blood.
Just like they were wrong on vaccinations, organ transplants, end of the world predictions, alternative service etc etc. before.
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Bad News....
by ColdRedRain ini'm being forced to go back to the kingdom hall on sunday because my wife demands i should do it.
i have a wife.
i should have been more honest with you.
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Be a man. Tell her like it is. You sound very wimpy from your post. I could not make my 16 year old go three years back. How can she make YOU go today ?
Tell her that if she leaves you for not going, not to let the door hit her in the A$$ on the way out.
That would feel good.
Heck, let me say it to her...
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This is a joke, right?