Posts by Vinny

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Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions regarding "attention seekers"?

by BonaFide in

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we all love it when people pay attention to us or our opinions.

but what i am talking about is people who crave and force attention from others.

not just people who talk a lot, but those that force everyone around them to focus on them and them only.. in one of my classes there is a woman who raises her hand to ask a question, but never really has a question to ask.

Vinny

Very boring thread for so many pages.

As much as I think Reniaa posting here helps JW lurkers and fence sitters to JUMP SHIP, along making current EX-JW's wonder, "what took us so long", I believe she probably should be banned from JWN.

Why so? Because this is still primarily a JW recovery site.

Not everybody is where I am and enjoys spanking Reniaa all the time on JWN. Some here are very delicate, in great pain, with very fresh wounds inflicted because of JW policies and actions against them.

Some I have seen are suicidal, many are depressed and despondent because of losing everybody they know because of these same Watchtower policies.

Most of us here do understand and can offer true empathy, and do.

I've seen too many times to count now, however, where somebody new will have the courage to post their story and ask for help only to see Reniaa jump in with some insensitive (to their personal situation) callous remarks.

And then a good ole RIOT breaks out on the thread where these people need much more understanding rather than a brouhaha.

I can understand allowing her to post in many cases and threads here, but not those ones where new people are already feeling broken and then she shows up.

Plus we've all seen her same old song and dance too many times now.

She shows up with nonsense, gets spanked, and pulls out another neat JW dance move with a back flip out the door trick.

And then does it again ...

Just my .02.

Vinny

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I have been SERIOUSLY dissed yesterday!

by AK - Jeff in

i don't even know if 'dissed' is a word still in use these days.

but it fits in this case.. we just rolled in from vacation, got our first mail delivery since getting back yesterday.

in the stack of mail was an envelope with a card.

Vinny

I understand completely. I disassociated and my wife faded too. And we live less than one mile from our Kingdom Hall that's also shared with two additional congregations. And, we live on an small island with a total of eight congregations where I have given several talks in all eight along with assembly/convention parts. Approximately one in every 50 people that live here is a JW. Which is probably why I see JW's almost daily.

Many Witnesses say hello to my wife while shunning me when we are together (which is quite often considering that we own our own business). Like your wife, mine is just as much out (if not more) than I am. But it's rather comical to see how differently we are treated solely because of a different "official status".

One of the more pathetic encounters was when we went to a JW funeral for a 25 year old Witness (died in motorcycle accident) that was best friends with one of our kids. I didn't want to go, but did go anyway because this kid was really special. In fact he lived right next door to us and would never shun me at any time. Even invited my wife and I for dinner. I took him out fishing on my boat with our kids several times. etc etc

Anyway, I went to the funeral out of respect for him, for my kids and for his parents. I was very low key at the funeral and just wanted to get in and out.

But in both directions, though my wife was hanging on to me like we were glued for some reason, Witnesses would approach her (while we are hollding hands), stop to thank her for coming and say nice things to her all the while acting as if I was never there. The problem was I was right there.

She was ticked off far more than I was. And I was pretty amazed at just how programmed and strange they were acting. It was a young man's funeral. I have no probs with them shunning me but why stop and chat with and thank her when she is attached to me and act as if I was a wooden door post.

Another friend of ours died fairly young --in fact we were both elders together-- and we sent a card of condolences this time (no more sorry funerals for us after that first one). We eventually received a reply from his my wife thanking my wife exclusively for the card. Though the card was from both of us.

I could tell you another 50 stories like this over the past three years.

I am so used to it nowadays. When we see somebody that will still speak with her I just send her off to talk and go about my business.

This is why we can all spend just a little bit of time here and there exposing this religion as exactly what it is: A mind controlling, cult-like religious institution that makes great boasts while condemning all others not JW and nothing more. It can be so pathetic and ugly at times.

It makes our neighbors and non-JW friends want to throw up (so they say). Even my wife's local doctor has been getting into it with his JW patients now because my wife tells him all about some of these sorry and pathetic stories. He confronted one just two weeks ago and flatly told him no more literature PERIOD! He can't believe just how evil this religion can be to other human beings.

Another former JW bible study (that my wife chats with ) chewed out her former JW teacher (who my wife was best friends with) just this past week after hearing how she cuts us off along with her own daughter just because she is no longer a JW.

When people hear that I am shunned by all JW's and even lost a stepson (my wife's son though I raised him starting at six years old) solely because I stopped going due to conscientious reasons about blood, they are floored and always get extremely ticked off.

So my advice is to tell as many people as you can just what happened Jeff.

It almost always comes back and bites them in the A$$.

Vinny

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Everybody say hi to my husband...

by cognac in

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because we have a stinken spy on our hands!

oh, and he wants to let everyone know that he is unbreakable in the truth.

as a matter of fact, hes going out in service both saturday and sunday.

Vinny

Cognac and pooter?

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...A Doggie Day in Hell...

by OUTLAW in

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ever have one of those days..when you go outside,and part of your dogs throat has been ripped out?...

that was the begining of my day... i have no idea what attacked him..whatever it was,was f*cking vicious!

!..there was a 2 inch hole of missing fur and skin on his neck.....and a severed artery......also a 2 inch hole of missing fur and skin on his leg.....and..another severed artery.....there was blood everywhere... the nearest vet is 1 1/2 hours away..i phoned in and told the doctor to be ready for me... i tied the dogs wounds up with tee-shirts to try to minimilize the bleeding..then put a 100 lb bleeding dog,in the back of the truck..........poor dog tried to stand up in the truck..his neck started to gush with blood..i got him to lie down..the bleeding slowed.....i jumped in the truck and drove..that was one long hour and a half... the doctor came out..looked at the dog,ran back in and brought out a stretcher..it took three of us to bring him in so he would`nt move around..that dog has spunk!..lol!!.

Vinny

Wow, I just read this one. Glad to hear it worked out okay Outlaw. You did the right thing, IMO. Post a photo of your boy for us when you have a sec. So we can put a face with the story. Unless you are fading of course.

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Everybody say hi to my husband...

by cognac in

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because we have a stinken spy on our hands!

oh, and he wants to let everyone know that he is unbreakable in the truth.

as a matter of fact, hes going out in service both saturday and sunday.

Vinny

What should we call him Cognac. Is "Cognac's Hubby" all that we have. Do we have a nickname for him?

How about pooter? ( I used to call my fav dog pooter).

Let me try it and see how it works first:

Hey Pooter, how's it going over there? Cognac has always been one of our favorite members. You have a great wifey. Take care of her and be nice to her.

Hey pooter, do you like football at all? I'm a Redskins fan. Not been too happy a times for me lately though...

Hey Pooter I was a ministerial servant already and let me tell you it's far over-rated. (I hear you want to be one). Basically you are the elder's grunt boys.

And then Pooter, when I became an elder it was much easier and just lot's of talks and pats on the back from other elders and jealous ministerial servants that never made it.

Stop by and say hi sometime pooter. But stay nice to Cognac for us please. We want to keep her. Take care.

I dunno Cognac. Maybe you have a new name we can use. But pooter sounds fine to me.

What do you think?

Vinny

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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...

by OnTheWayOut in

let's just stay hypothetical.

if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.

just assume that they use a p.o.

Vinny

"I also chuckled at the comment someone made about people caring enough about the df'd person to actually contact them to find out how they are doing. Every df'd person I've met hasn't had anyone care enough to do that so that would be the minority...now, if the WTS hadn't and wasn't pushing for more distance between df'd people and families or friends, then perhaps that would be a different matter, but the way it stands now, a df'd person is dead so for most of them, contact is nil." sammieswife

**** I completely disagree. Maybe while DF'd they pull back or are cut off entirely. (Though not always). But once fake reinstatement is announced (if it ever gets that far before being exposed) then obviously congratulations, renewing relationships, encouragement and checking up on will almost always follow. Otherwise, what's the point of wanting a fake reinstatement to begin with if nobody cares even after the fact??

But additionally, if you are a parent of a DF'd child, there is a very good chance some communication continues anyway. I sure did when my 18 year old son lived on his own to at least some degree. And I was an elder. So many other parents have some (although often just minimal) conversations with children that are DF'd. Usually almost always along the lines of make sure you go to the meetings along with the we miss you guilt trips.

You must know only cold heartless JW's to write the above.

Vinny

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THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT?!!!!

by Hikaru in

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google alerts caught this.. http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2009/07/17/news0133.htm.

<quote>.

summit ends with call for global peace .

Vinny

No no no, that already happened in 1986 by UN.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1309/is_v21/ai_3156277/

Didn't you get your stamp?

http://peace.gnet.no/

Where you been?

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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...

by OnTheWayOut in

let's just stay hypothetical.

if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.

just assume that they use a p.o.

Vinny

Dear Freedomsintfree, what OnTheWayOut said is exactly what I thought too. You stir up more problems by making a deal out of it at all. I was an elder for several years and let me tell you, I not once went looking at other's publisher cards. Too busy, didn't care, felt like I would have been snooping etc. I'd suggest letting it go. You'll just draw more attention to the very things you don't want them having, IMO.

Hey Twinkle toes and Freedomisntfree (and anybody else): Come on over and join us!!!

Lot's of cold ones here. Though Jeff likes a beer called Labatt I never tried yet. Maybe I should. Hey Jeff is it any good?

Vinny

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The truth is that the reason my wife and I left was bound up with "Making the Truth Our Own"

by gubberningbody in

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you get contacted, you come in, you learn the bible their way, then you learn the bible your way and then you leave.. you make the truth your own..

Vinny

Spike Tassel writes: "There is both spirit and truth required. In line with Jehovah, and Galatians 5:22,23. How is condemnation going to help me, Vinny? What interchange of encouragement and enlightment can you offer? How do you expect to be rescued from sin and death, Vinny?"

**** I believe in a God that transcends all religions on the earth, Spike.

I believe God does NOT exist in the little boxes that people the world over often try to put him into Spike.

I walk with and worship God freely without any strings attached by any religious institution on the earth today.

I am 100 percent God is with me today. And I have left the Watchtower Society. What do you think about that Spike?

Is it Satan, Spike?

I have examined and continue to think about the meaning of life, God, faith every day that I am alive.

I am free from feeling the need to change other people to be like me and to believe what I believe.

THAT IS "ENLIGHTENMENT" SPIKE.

Want more? Because I sure have much more to share if you can handle it.

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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...

by OnTheWayOut in

let's just stay hypothetical.

if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.

just assume that they use a p.o.

Vinny

Flipper writes: "OTWO- What OTWO said. Peace out, Mr. Flipper"

**** Vinny Replies: ALLTIMEJEFF- What ALLTIMEJEFF said. Peace out, Vinny