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  Cognitive Dissonance - Best of

  by Dagney in

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  2. friends

  i have been explaining "cognitive dissonance" to a person (that i hope finds this site and thread) who is going though it right now.

  i sent the description to them with a link to additional information.. however, from a jw/exjw perspective, i would like your assistance to build a list of the various conficting thoughts perpetuated by the wtbs that creates this condition.

  for instance, i gave them:.

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  Dagney

  Hi all. I have been explaining "cognitive dissonance" to a person (that I hope finds this site and thread) who is going though it right now. I sent the description to them with a link to additional information.

  However, from a JW/exJW perspective, I would like your assistance to build a list of the various conficting thoughts perpetuated by the WTBS that creates this condition. For instance, I gave them:

  your best is enough vs you are not doing enough

  God loves you vs if you don't do more then god will destroy yuo

  God loved the world so much he gave his son... vs you are no part of the world

  We are on a roll here. Can't go into more detail but it is very exciting for me, and them.

  Your thoughts are very much appreciated...
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  Are we starting to treat DF people differently?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some may remember the time when the private study edition of the wt wasn't to be made available to outsiders, and the df'd.. now, with the recent boe letter, sept 1, 2014, it specifically states that jw.org is making the km available even for df'd individuals.. do you sense a new trend developing?.

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  Dagney

  Keeping accessible documents non-accessible to "certain ones" seems petty, which we know the WTBS is. Because it is all about punishing disobedient ones. The punishing keeps the others in fear of it. I don't think they will let go of DF'g anytime soon. But it's really stupid for them to try to keep publications/literature away from everybody, IMO.
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  HELP needed for a friend, please. Anyone?..

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a friend of mine (who has recently started reading jwn) is having trouble eating and sleeping because, even after having recently woken up to ttatt.. they are still concerned about 'demons, everlasting destruction, and jehovahs disapproval'.. i've tried to encourage them.

  i'm sure you all understand that these things can take time, the transition period is often painful, to some extent.

  i'm still struggling with anger and depression myself.. i'll be away from jwn, off the internet, and thus out of contact with them for a while (don't ask why)... so please don't expect me to reply to or even look at what you post, .

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  Dagney

  Fear and control comes from what you give power to. Once you take the power away from Satan, demons, whatever...they are nothing more than words.
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  144,000 New Light update

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if i was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the borg poop shoot may be.

  i would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.. for two reasons:.

  1. the number of partakers is increasing every year.

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  Dagney

  GTTM: may I ask where those figures came from? I want to share them with a JW. Thank you.
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  I've been Love-Bombed

  by GoingGoingGone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my husband and i are on vacation.

  we are in another country visiting his non-jw family.

  we lived here for many years, and our closest jw friends are all here, albeit a 4 hr.

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  Dagney

  I understand. Good on you for giving you children a different life. Freedom is priceless.

  I feel the same way after seeing the old friends. I feel sorry for them in their delusion...the future they expect will never materialize...what a waste of life. I feel a little sorry for myself...little...just sets me back a wee bit. But when I think about the freedom I have, that chasm between gets wider and wider, and I feel less and less about it. Phew...what a journey.

  Congratulations on your successful exit!
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  My Story: from JW Elder to Born Again Christian to Agnostic

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i first posted here on 3rd june 2008. at the time i was an elder, appointed the previous october, i was 36 and i was a born-in.

  at the time i'd become disillusioned with the society due to the governing body's letter explaining why the book study in private homes was being abolished.

  april 2008 saw me start questioning this decision, privately of course, and this eventually led me to this site, to jwfacts and to many youtube videos, all of which began to errode my faith in the leaders of the organisation.. in july 2008, having discussed my doubts with my wife, i attended the district convention, deciding to give the society one last chance to convince me it was the truth.

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  Dagney

  Wonderful post! Thank you for sharing your journey.

  It is so strange there is so much comfort and happiness in "not knowing."
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  Not on JW.ORG: Jehovah's Witnesses being sued again in California for Child Molestation by Pioneer/Servant. Abuse hidden from police by Elders and Watchtower Society.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  orange county lawsuit alleges sex abuse by jehovah's witness leadertwo men said they were abused in laguna hills as teenagers.. .

  by eric hartley / staff writer.

  published: aug. 27, 2014 updated: 7:44 p.m.. two men who say they were molested as teenagers by a jehovahs witness church leader in south orange county filed a lawsuit against him and the church this week.

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  Here we go. This is close. I hope the register keeps tabs on this case as it progresses. It will be interesting to find out the name.
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  Introductions

  by Onager in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've made a few posts here already so i thought i'd introduce myself.

  i'm an ex-jw from cheltenham pittville (uk) congregation.

  i've been free and clear for a few years now so i'm through the anger phase and in the happily getting on with my life phase.

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  Dagney

  Welcome Matt! We are glad you are here. Clink!
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  Do you intend to die?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as far as i know, all of us are going to die.

  our hope, our stories, and the fantazy of " good people" telling tales of heaven, or a new system, or future reassembling of our consciousness is not likely?

  do you still cling to it?.

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  Dagney

  Accepting my mortality was huge after exiting the JWs. Never dying, even though how/what/where was iffy, was ingrained from infancy. My logical mind accepts it. My emotional side hates it.
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  Did You Believe That You Were Going To Live Forever?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  in either heaven or earth?.

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  Dagney

  Paradise was such a nice thought...frolicking with wild life, being able to pursue delayed interests... But I didn't see how "paradise" could work. My head would start to explode when I started thinking how we would have to trade services and trades in order to live like the pictures in the books. Then eventually it would be just like life today...except it would be like living in one giant, bland earthwide Bethel. Beth-hell.

  No, I didn't see myself there, no matter how hard I tried to do that. And besides as a teen, a CO told our congregations that only 1/3 of it were going to make it. Thinking about that now, I'm sure that damaged any sort of hope I had in everlasting life.