Dagney

Joined

• started 144 topics
• posted 6,021 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Dagney

• 
  24

  CAN WE SOLVE THE MYSTERY of why Watchtower doctrines changed when they changed?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a person gives a police report of a traumatic event, but later changes their facts during cross-examination, these changes are used to impeach the honesty of the witness.. this impeachment flows from a logical understanding facts must match reality without contradiction.. lets examine the history of the watchtower corporations leaders with a view to the harmony of.

  true teaching over a period of years from 1879-1942.. "even though christmas is not the real anniversary of our lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date.

  we may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "christmas day.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  A.) seperate his Jehovah's Witnesses from the Bible Students

  B.) seperate his Jehovah's Witnesses from the rest of Christendom

  During Rutherford's time you had a reinterpretation of Bible prophecy to fit JW's as God's organization. Fred Franz continued this and used the Bible to "prove" that organizational changes were prophecised and proof of the Watchtower's appontment

  ^^^ This. They made this into a war cry. And the end was "soooo close," as the years ticked by they were so invested in this mindset, re-evaluating the dogma was something they hoped they didn't have to do. They dug their heels in and put their blinders on and kept their "eyes on the prize."
• 
  48

  Jehovah’s Witness elder jailed for 12 years for multiple sexual offences against young girl

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/2014/11/29/david-dennis-gunnislakeharrowbarrow/.

  david dennis gunnislake/harrowbarrow.

  29 saturday nov 2014. posted by author in cornwall.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  I hope he suffers some abuse where he is going.
• 
  38

  2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.

  why be two faced?

  why try to excuse it?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  Witness...you have an excellent point. Never thought of that.
• 
  38

  2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.

  why be two faced?

  why try to excuse it?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  Thanksgiving has been a conflicted holiday. I remember having turkey at my brother's house then going to school or work and people would ask "How was your Thanksgiving Holiday?" I'd think, "did I celebrate Thanksgiving?" What a ridiculous waste of energy.

  An elder's wife texted me if I had plans today. I said yes, my friends are cooking (only 1 remaining JW, the host), all I have to do is bring wine. She actually said everybody was busy today so they are "doing it on Saturday." Okaaay. And the CO is coming over on Friday. Okaaay.

  Everyone does what they want.
• 
  102

  Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

  i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  Hey (((tal))),

  I haven't seen it on the TV myself, just seems to be popping up all over on news feeds. **sigh** Of course innocent until proven otherwise, but geez...he is really starting to look like a predator. Drugging and forcing himself on an incapacitated woman is a power trip; not just actions of a weak adulterous man.
• 
  102

  Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

  i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  This just popped up in my email http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/20/therese-serignese-bill-cosby-rape-victim_n_6188270.html (sorry, don't know how to imbed).

  It will sort out in a court of law to be sure, but I'm thinking where there is smoke there is fire. Bill, seriously, what part of drug and rape was okay?

  Wow.
• 
  60

  How Do You Answer Someone Who Says JWs Are Not False Prophets?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.

  how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  I've asked them "name one thing, anything, that JW's have uniquely predicted that came true. And none of this "invisible" business either." They come up with nothing.
• 
  40

  New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

  he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

  if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  I was just told the COBE/PO does a WT check of the elders and MS to see if the magazines are "studied" (ie. Highlighted).

  Crazy times.
• 
  20

  I need help

  by tiredroadie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  im new here, and dont know much about jw, other than what im reading.

  i have my best friend who is having bible study in her home with 2 witnesses, and she is soaking it in.

  she is very defensive and is getting more and more closed off.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  The first thing that Bible Students are taught is that "well meaning but misguided friends and relatives will no doubt try to get you to stop studying ". The more you oppose , the more true the Witness teaching seems to be. I would commend her, be pleased for her , that she has found a faith that fulfills her needs.

  But , just as you would not by a car without an independant inspection, urge her, challenge her if need be to at least look at a couple of independant websites . I would recommend Freeminds.org and JWFacts.com.

  She has to come to a conclusion by herself......good luck

  ^^^^This.

  She is needing something otherwise her radar and alarm signals would be going off. Try to find out what need the JW's are filling. Question things she is learning from a curious "that makes no sense" standpoint.

  As was said ...she is lucky to have a friend like you. Try to save her if you can. Good luck.
• 
  52

  Montreal Gazette: 'Homosexuals like you in tight pants,' JW leader says

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://montrealgazette.com/life/turning-the-page-homosexuals-like-you-in-tight-pants-jehovahs-witness-leader-says-reportsturning the page: 'homosexuals like you in tight pants,' jehovah's witness leader says reportsjillian page, montreal gazette more from jillian page, montreal gazette.

  published on: november 12, 2014 last updated: november 12, 2014 11:33 pm est.

  skin-tight pants are a no-no in public, church leader says,.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Dagney

  HIGH-larious Finkelstein!