I was pretty shocked years ago when a friend was DF'd for "disobeying counsel." They can DF for anything. As one elder told me "you win no battles with elders."
Posts by Dagney
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45What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?
by Sea Breeze ini knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.
she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.
no one even remembered her.
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What does the Catholic church think of JW?
by Halcon inon a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.
he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.
is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?
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Dagney
My first Bible study was Catholic and her mother was furious. She had to carry her literature with her out of the house every day or her mother would destroy the colorful books. Mom felt she would go to hell and was literally scared about that. In fact later, after my student became a JW, she was worried mom would take her kids to be baptized catholic.
Seems that they are tolerant unless a family member converted to JW.
Sounds familiar doesn’t it.
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God’s wisdom in allowing bearded JWs July 25 Watchtower
by Listener inthe july 2025 watchtower has a paragraph that claims that it was the superior power and wisdom of jehovah that guided the gb into allowing jws to grow beards.. the study article is ‘can you still learn from basic bible teachings?’ under the subheading ‘jehovah is the creator’ paragraph 7 states-.
“ 7. what did rahela do to accept a change in direction?.
your answer.
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Dagney
Seriously, that paragraph 7 in a "Bible study" (rolls eyes) article sounds like a joke. How the faithful can take them seriously for anything is beyond me.
Make me wonder who would actually raise their hand to read that answer from the paragraph...lol.
Side note. A picture was posted of a family dinner last week Out of seven men at the table the only one with a beard was my JW relative. I hadn't though about that until this thread.
This superior wisdom and power of this creator must be the same guy that awards touchdowns and home runs along with deadly crashes and warfare.
Got it.
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Witnesses still get in sex trouble in the congregation even bethel
by Witness 007 inso i asked a aussie bethelite if the wife swap rumor was true about 2 bethel couples on holidays and he said yes!!
we had pioneers having sex on there weekend time.
i had a brother who was having sex with his best friend witness wife are we any different to other people.there is alot of disfellowshiping for this.. on the side note i had one of the sweetest sisters who at work was in charge of finances and had stolen thousands of dollars and was arrested..
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Dagney
Yes, they DO call police for people stealing money, but not calling police for pedophiles. Doesn’t a thief also “bring reproach on Jehovah’s name”? 🤷♀️
Excellent simple argument/no argument. I love a 1-2 liner that lands an irrefutable message. I'm going to remember this one.
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Memorial attendance
by Balaamsass2 incurious.
what was your local memorial attendance like tonight?
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Dagney
I wouldn’t trust the accuracy of any numbers the WBTS reports for anything. They can add zoom attendees to make up what ever number they need to keep the faithful mildly impressed.
Cognitive dissonance to see dwindling meeting attendance, combined circuits and congregations, thousands of empty seats in previously well attended conventions and still believe any reported growth.
i didn’t receive any invites this year, I think it’s a first. Less stress for me lol.
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Trump Tariffs started today, Some Countries Caved in early morning.
by liam inusa politicians in charge of the economy for the past 50 years were too stupid to understand how the economy works.
this just proves my theory, that an education on the top tier universities just sucks and means nothing in the real world, unless its in the stem education.
for 50 years usa had zero tariffs on other countries.
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Dagney
It's sickening to me to watch and hear him congratulate the cronies in his office that made millions from the insider trading in the downturn.
He doesn't think at all about the millions lost to the millions of regular folks and small businesses. The money in my portfolio means nothing to him, but it is everything to me.
Manipulation at its finest. Only care about the people that can give him something back for his generosity to the wealthy.
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Trump Tariffs started today, Some Countries Caved in early morning.
by liam inusa politicians in charge of the economy for the past 50 years were too stupid to understand how the economy works.
this just proves my theory, that an education on the top tier universities just sucks and means nothing in the real world, unless its in the stem education.
for 50 years usa had zero tariffs on other countries.
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Dagney
I am looking at broker invoices just received from our NJ office. Containers that typically land at $3K-4K are now landing at $14K per container.
Trade agreements should be reviewed and renegotiated regularly, of course. The people feeling the hurt from all this chaos are the businesses scrambling and the consumers. I have a feeling the chaos will settle somewhere in between. But the method is so difficult for the average to small business. But who cares about them right!
I will be out of here very soon. I also have been in auto parts for decades...and it's been a good industry to be part of, very recession proof. We had Brazilian suppliers in last week that will pick up some of the manufacturing, less tariff and landing costs. So it goes.
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Trump Tariffs started today, Some Countries Caved in early morning.
by liam inusa politicians in charge of the economy for the past 50 years were too stupid to understand how the economy works.
this just proves my theory, that an education on the top tier universities just sucks and means nothing in the real world, unless its in the stem education.
for 50 years usa had zero tariffs on other countries.
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Dagney
We just received an email this afternoon for the additional tariff on our auto parts, potentially 79% total by May. The existing 25%, the March addition of 20%, and the possible 34% in May.
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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Dagney
I remember having a conversation years ago with JW friends (at the time), that the organization had two ways to go.
- Hardcore...Knorr/Jaracz hardcore isolating way or
- Christian church kumbaya way
Money talks...and beards/ladies slacks/NO COUNTING HOURS is painless for the corporation and an easy way to keep people hanging on and bank debits for WT expenses in intact.
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GB being sued as a group and named individually in a child sexual abuse coverup.
by liam inthis is a court case filed in august 2021 by the zalkin law firm.
deborah hines vs watchtower and the governing body.. what's interesting is;.
"ny already set a precedent that an unincorporated group can be sued for its action and has specifically said this case can move forward.
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Dagney
The G.B and the Org. overall do not care or hardly think about the poor victims in cases like this.
^^This is the thing that makes me sick to my stomach and absolutely HATE this religion.
Spend a little time watching or reading any court case where the WT lawyers absolutely vilify the formerly juvenile victims in court is enough to make my blood boil.
I really hate this religion. Always hoping the victims receive the help they need to live a normal life.