It's a hit to the gut, even though our logical minds know they are not true friends.
Keep on sharing here. We understand.
the drama continues, i log on to facebook this morning and notice that i have about 20 some odd personal messages from people calling me an apostate to they will return to me when i return to jehovah.. all of this based upon my brother informing others that i have "apostate thoughts".
my mother also encourage long-time famil friends to "unfriend" me because i have taken my stand on the side of satan... wow.
don't you just love this international brotherhood.
It's a hit to the gut, even though our logical minds know they are not true friends.
Keep on sharing here. We understand.
hey i found this on ebay this morning.
might be interesting to hear the old stuff.
i remember in the old days they used to play the old orchestra records in the halls, until they went to piano tapes.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=130940038294.
Awww..."Here I am send me." I liked that song.
i have a free day sunday and would love to meet up with a mentally diseased apostate.
i am staying in the lax marriott..
Hi cantleave! I'm mentally diseased and apostate and living in the LA area. Love to meet more like minded souls. I'm within 20 minutes of LAX. I'll PM you.
i still believe it's coming.
i think if god is real, it has to come.
it only makes sense.
To some, a talking snake makes perfect sense.
blondie posted her watchtower comments for today and her last paragraph was asking for help, suggestions.
she is in pain from her knee injury, is on steroids and possibly going to have surgery.. she is asking if anyone here, has had the same problem, and if so, what did they do and how was the outcome?.
just lois.
(((Blondie)))
(Heard "Heart of Glass" on the way into work today. Now everytime I hear Blondie, I think of you. )
so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.
nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.
his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.
I know of scriptural grounds being given because of the husband touching the private parts of another woman during the separation. It was considered porneia. Don't get me wrong, I was happy this miserable couple could move forward into new lives, but touching means adultery? I asked several elders about it and they just shrugged their shoulders and didn't say anything because they could not provide the scriptural support.
They absolutely make it up as they go along. What happened to your friend would not necessarily happen in another congregation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ukz5m-yo4&feature=youtu.be.
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cedars.
So you guys who are in, are the people around you eating this stuff up? Wondering.
LOL Outlaw. Exactly. It's like Job, it's okay to kill off everything and everybody because you are going to get new ones. Life is so valuable to Jah.
the day finally comes.
you get up one day with the nagging feeling that it's going to be different.
you get dressed, get in the car, then notice how dark the weather's getting.
I already said the the sinner's prayer, you only have to say it once, right? I'm good.
how would you answer him?
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I'd might tell him "Of course!" knowing full well it would never happen and perhaps getting the guy off my back.
many of us were members of the theocratic ministry school for many years.
some say it helped them with public speaking, and maybe it did for some.. but, when you look back at the quality of student it turned out, was it really any good ?.
most elders are crap public speakers, most r&f bros are crap at reading aloud, most jw's are crap at selling their religion at the door, most jw's have scant real knowledge of the bible.. there are reasons for this, quite often the tms overeer hasn't a clue how to teach a person to progress.
I would say on paper, the idea was pretty good, and I think overall, if you use it they way you would any opportunity to learn, you can certainly improve using the guidebook.
From what I understand the TMS Overseer is a newboy position because it took so much work, the body couldn't wait to pass it off to the new appointee. Unfortunately, it was not the right position for some, and the congregation suffered for it.
In the big picture, if as kids we were encouraged to participate in school activities, clubs debate teams...I think most of us kids would have benefited more than a 5min presentation in the TMS. When I quit the school I told the overseer "I graduated."