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  Bleecker Street — I saw a shadow touch a shadow’s hand (New York)

  by slimboyfat in

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  will i ever make it to new york?

  i feel if i ever did make it to new york i would never want to leave again.

  what do i know about new york?

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  Dagney

  Hi slim - I keep forgetting to let you know I am listening to "The Power Broker" on audible since your post. I'm always looking for interesting books to listen to while I work. I am so weary of political and murder podcasts at the moment, LOL.

  I am a fan of Lewis Mumford and it was interesting to read he was a critic of Moses. He has a very eloquent way of describing architecture.

  As far as NYC, it is an amazing city. And what a history. I was there when I was barely 3 for the international in '58, and I have only a slight memory of things...mainly the elevator where we stayed. I've been back many times since. One of the most memorable was in 1982, staying at the Standish in Brooklyn. It was such a fun time with my buddies who were at Bethel. One night we ate at the Rainbow room, went to a Broadway play, had drinks on top of the WTC and danced to jazz group, then watched the sun come up on top of the roof of the Towers building. I actually ran into Fred Franz in the elevator of the Standish, couldn't miss those brown shoes and piercing blue eyes.

  I hope you get to go some day.
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  What Is The Position Of Witnesses For People Who Are Inactive And Don’t Want To Be Bothered By Anyone?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i used to have some close friends simply pay me a friendly visit or call to see how i was doing.. i am curious as to whether or not the society instructed witnesses to no longer check on inactive ones and treat them as marked or disfellowshipped..

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  Dagney

  I left 19 years ago, not df’d. Absolutely shunned, with exception to some news they still contact me, usually a death. I haven’t talk to my elder brother for 4-5 years and he has visited relatives and friends in my area. Oddly, he emailed and called me on my birthday last weekend.

  The rule is to punish us for leaving the faith and shunning is their method. Whatever.🥱
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  So according to wt. Doctrine, If you die one day before Armageddon...

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you will be resurrected.

  but if you live one more day when armageddon starts you will die a horrible death with no chance of a resurrection.

  makes sense to me!.

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  Dagney

  One of the things that made me leave. A loving god would destroy the whole wicked world when the numbers were 1/2/3/4 etc billion! Not 9 billion!

  A loving god wouldn't wait until 1844/1879/1914/1975 (insert your favorite number) to tell the wicked world they are all going to die unless they listen to the prophet of the moment.

  Faith is the only thing that keeps anybody in any religion. It has nothing to do with common sense or logic.
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  No more hour requirements for pioneers

  by solomon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was announced at the meeting.

  do what you are able to because of covid.. i think i should sign up as i’m able to meet the hour requirements.

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  Dagney

  ^^^^ This.

  The WT has been putting out phony numbers for decades. Now with the new pandemic arrangement, they don't need to police the report numbers via a congregation secretary. The pioneer numbers and FS hours for all will increase.

  And the increase will all be from Jehovah's blessing from an international pandemic. "Praise Jah!! and thanks for COVID19!"

  They have to make these numbers up because there will be those that will fade, and there won't be real growth. They have to keep the ruse up for the faithful that need this religion. The ones that don't will leave.

  It's really quite perfect...just like sitting by a cart where nobody talks to you is "disciple making."
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  The toxic JW Worldview

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes i forget how small-minded, petty, provincial, mean-spirited ignorant and judgemental it was and still is.... then i sit down with a jw relative, hoping to have a normal conversation and realize there is literally nothing to talk about.. nothing..... current events?

  hobbies?

  your job?

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  Dagney

  “Current events? -Nope. Hobbies? -Nope. Your job? -Nope. Their job? -Nope. Travel? -Nope. Financial planning/strategies? -Nope. Education? -Nope. Art? -Nope. Literature? -Nope. Entertainment? -Nope. Maybe a good book you've read? -Nope.”

  I so agree. I used to get a little sad, missing my old friends and JW family. But then I remember the agita of having to check the conversation because their lives and their conversation is totally only WT related. Nothing else. I just talked with JW who shared with me their business was on the news. I told them I was so excited because I was in the process of buying a little place in the desert for retirement. Crickets.

  I keep falling for the expectation of a normal conversation, and every time I’m reminded that I’ve changed and I longer in that space.
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  2020 Convention- Worse fear-mongering propaganda video

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/p7jx8sbghck .

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  Dagney

  Oh dear, how delusional. Same message they’ve had from the get go, but sheesh...you forget how creepy it is!
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  Lingering doubts and internal debates

  by Huxley1979 in

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  2. friends

  hello, i am in the beginning stages of a slow fade.

  over the years i have become more and more dissatisfied with the beliefs, teachings, and organizational practices of the organization.

  i no longer have faith in it.

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  Dagney

  Welcome Huxley! Glad you found us.

  I was in the audience at Dodger Stadium when Freddie Franz yelled into the microphone "this old world will not survive the end of this century!" And by george, I believed him 100%. As a JW you only look for and only see the bad going on. You are taught to hook onto it so you can offer a pet lion on a paradise earth to worldly people. And boy did I. And I was successful in converting 4 people to the faith.

  One of the major factors of my leaving was a series that was played on PBS in 1999-2000, about apocalyptic religions. It traced many groups through the centuries predicting 1000, 1500, 1844, 1879 etc etc. as THE year of god's great war with satan and "their" faithful as the only worthy survivors. I had no idea. I was raised a JW, and I thought only they had the inside scoop on this whole business. Turns out JW's were just one of many groups that interpreted scripture to their own agenda, each with their unique argument as to why their calculations were the only correct ones.

  As read and gather more information outside the JW box, you will gain more confidence in your decision.

  Wishing you peace of mind and comfort for the journey.
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  How Would You React if a Snake Started Talking to You?

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  just an odd thought i guess.

  i saw a large snake in the back of my house the other day and it went on its merry way.

  i just asked myself, what if the snake turned around and wanted to have a philosophical discussion on life, the universe or the origin of creation and then began to ask me questions?

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  Dagney

  One of the best lines I ever heard was from this board. It went something like this.

  When some JW is trying to make some point using the WT's phrasing and says:

  "It's logical to assume..."

  Answer: "Some think a talking snake is logical."

  I love using this.
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  JWs and Covid Benefits

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a wonderful time to be a jehovah’s witness!

  for the most part you don’t have to go and preach you don’t have to go to meetings and you can stay home and watch what happens on your ipad.

  these are the glory days!!

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  Dagney

  I guess maybe now it really is the "Best Life Ever!"

  Just for giggles, maybe it would be fun to contact somebody and say "Hey howareya! I heard you don't have to go from door to door anymore to get your time in and can attend meetings in your own home. Count me in!" and see what they say.
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  JWs and Covid Benefits

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a wonderful time to be a jehovah’s witness!

  for the most part you don’t have to go and preach you don’t have to go to meetings and you can stay home and watch what happens on your ipad.

  these are the glory days!!

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  Dagney

  Exactly. It's brilliant. The WT doesn't lose its numbers and the peeps have the easest time ever!

  I wouldn't doubt FT numbers go up, increase of pioneers! Who would ever know!!