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  What the Mob Could Teach The Watchtower

  by metatron in

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  i was reading an account of the decline of the new york mob in usa today and found some .

  parallels with the watchtower.. too much publicity and exposure: the 'teflon don' liked his armani suits and media.

  presence - but this intensified the attention his organization received from authorities.. older, wiser leaders ( carlo gambino) realized that keeping a low profile was important.. the end of 'omerta' - mob figures used to maintain a code of silence but this started.

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  dottie

  *LOL*

  The mafia could probably pick up tips & pointers from the WTS!!!

  Dottie
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  Hard to celebrate holidays after leaving the Org.?

  by santacruzchick in

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  for those of you who grew up in 'the troof', after leaving, did you find it hard or uncomfortable in any way to celebrate holidays and bithdays since you had no ties to them whatsover?

  if so, how did you deal with it?

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  dottie

  When I was in highschool, I would secretly exchange gifts with my "worldly" friends. Mostly because I love to get gifts for people. The first time actually celebrating a holiday, or birthday, I felt kind of uncomfortable, but it was something I knew I could get used to. My biggest thing, even now is when my mother-in-law. or father-in-law ask me what I want for my birthday or for Christmas; I feel very selfish answering at all. I really like Christmas now, I think because I'm married and it's a big thing in my husbands family. Every year it's a weekend thing to go to his mom's and decorate the tree and house, we have a nice little get together. I mention any of this to my mom and she calls me a little pagan(jokingly, not with scorn thankfully) I can tell she HATES the fact that I'm celebrating it, but she's pretty good about it and respects the descisions that i've made in my life.(I'm very Lucky in this sense) I find it very easy to just go with the flow, only do what YOU'RE happy doing, whether you celebrate or not celebrate, it's all personal preference. (Personally I can't wait for Christmas :))

  Dottie
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  Thoughts on the Columbine Tragedy

  by SYN in

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  hope the word "columbine" is spelled right in this post .

  today i read an article on rense.com (an excellent website for all conspiracy theorists) where a parent was moaning about mtv, and the influence it was having on american children and other children.

  apparently, mtv is bad for your morals or something.

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  dottie

  When I was in school and living at home, my mother, was convinced that I was doing all these awful teenage things(by awful, I mean normal teen stuff) because of the music I listened to. Because of the borg, music was a great emotional release for me, so music at that time was a HUGE part of my life. The first time i ever skipped a class, I got caught. My mom was called and when I got home, my entire room was stripped BARE of anything that was related to music. Posters, magazines, books, my stereo, along with my tapes, collectable '45's (remember them?) and any kind of t-shirt that had a rock group on it. Needless to say I lost my mind (or so it seemed!)

  I guess that the point is, your teacher blamed Doom for the same reason that my mom blamed the music. A quick easy scapegoat. If it looks bad, it must be evil...alot of people still blame music for things that kids do,(wasn't Marilyn Manson blamed for Columbine as well?) and they don't look at the real cold hard facts. They don't want to admit that there's a problem with what they're doing, and what they're teaching.(living in and encouraging social classes).

  Anyway, good morning to all I have to get ready for work! I like something to think about while I drudge though the day. Great Topic SYN!!

  dottie
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  Brothers told to stop being wasteful!

  by dmouse in

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  i wonder what the real reason is behind this plea from the wbts.

  perhaps it is more evidence of a desire to downsize?.

  but they can't downsize the printing works if the brothers are being wasteful!

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  dottie

  I think they should quit wasting trees and stop publishing altogether.
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  MS Rat,My Dad , Elder and Betrayal

  by LyinEyes in

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  most of you know about the story of the ms who ratted on wildturkey and me for smoking at the club, he smoked one of my cigs and was there with his girlfriend (he is married).

  well, i ran into him last night at the club and confronted him,, i asked him why he told on us, i just wanted to know, he said he didnt know why, he just felt pressured..i asked if he told on himself he said no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  i wanted to slap him right there.

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  I think that the borg is a HUGE breeding grounds for rats. My brother was at a party,(at a jw kids house btw) doing party things and the elders found out about the party and the all that was going on,(booze, pot,normal teenage stuff). They questioned all whom they thought were involved and sure enough there were a couple of rats in the bunch, out to save their own ratty skin. I myself was ratted out too about my smoking at school.

  Anyway, my point is that you can never trust a witness with secrets like smoking or other "worldly" stuff that you happen to enjoy. Lyin' I think you should rat this MS out for his infedelities! ( or at least for the smoking!)

  Dottie
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  HOW DID YOU COME INTO THE"TRUTH"???

  by minimus in

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  were you raised as a jw, like me, or were you converted (at least i have an excuse)?

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  Born and raised, rebelled at age 15, leaving my mom and her beliefs behind. She just couldn't get it through her head that this wasn't for me, and the only way that she did "get it" was when I moved out.

  Dottie
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  Sacrifices you made for the truth?

  by haujobbz in

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  1) i sacrificed work offered to me so i could earn more money.

  2) i sacrificed my job as a well payed dj.

  3) i sacrificed weekend ly-ins to go out preaching.

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  1. sacrificed my entire childhood

  2. any desire to go to college or university

  3. any shred of independance or self-dignity

  4. many, many, visits from santa, easter bunny, etc
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  Facial Hair Poll

  by LittleToe in

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  the background to this thread is that i love wearing (?

  ) a beard, but my wife hates it.

  i've changed my profile pic to reflect four states of facial hairiness (if it doesn't show, hit "refresh" on your browser).. i'm interested in your opinions.

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  dottie

  Ithink that # 3 and # 4 are both great. My husband also has facial hair. I 've never known him without.

  P.s I think that #2 makes you look like the actor Viggo Morgenstein(sp?) He was the Boot camp trainer guy in GI Jane.

  Dottie
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  Deprogramming

  by Perfection Seeker in

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  i am new on here- already posted one thing about life after leaving- got great responses.

  as you can see by my name "perfection seeker" i was a witness.

  i am now leaving, and not a perfection seeker :-) does anyone have information on exit counseling or deprogramming?

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  dottie

  I think that making contact with others in the same situation is important. I remember when I left I elt alone, and especially in a small town, my only option I felt was to leave altogether. So now I'm on the opposite side of the country than my family. In the last couple years, I've found that even just reading stories on other websites, and I'm also new to this website, (which I think is fab, and a great place to vent) I've found quite a bit of "therapy" right in these pages. It's hard at first, but I imagine you already feel like that huge weight on your shoulders has been lifted off. I remember what that felt like, and that's the feeling of freedom baby, yeah!!!

  The hardest thing for myself was coming to terms that this so-called truth is just another religion. When I came to that realization, it was very emotional. And you'll have emotional times too. Just remember that you're not alone, and you have the support of 1000's of other exjw's in this site as well as the 100's of other sites out there,(as well as in person too!!!)

  Take care, and vent away when need be!!

  Dottie
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  What a wonderful world it would be...

  by joannadandy in

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  it just dawned on me...you can't give someone the finger if you are wearing mittens.. this may be of little importance to some of you in warm areas, but this bothers/intrigues me.

  if i wanted to flip a bird while wearing mittens the person i am sending it to would just think i am angrily waving at them, and then the padded wagon of doom would come.. would more mittens in our society qwell road rage?.

  i was also pondering skipping...i haven't had a good skip in ages!.

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  Skipping always made me happy when I was a child (scraped knees and all). I think it would do everyone a little good if they skipped for a few minutes everyday!!

  Dottie