the start of this thread is here:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=41588&site=3.
wow!
I'm a first year nursing student, and boy, when you've been out of school for 10 or 11 years, it is very overwhelming. I'm preparing for finals now :( ! I still can't believe I'm actually at University, I'm just wondering when this reality will hit me!!
Dottie
another fluff topic that has no useful purpose whatsoever.
i have a big foot.
my shoe size is 12 wide.
Size 10, sometimes 11 and wide unfortunately. I remember the good old days when my feet were an affordable size 8 (yeah but that was when I was 13 *LOL*)
Dottie
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hey everyone.i know im in trouble now deep deep shit !i went to my highschool football game last night,its like the biggest game of the year,well yall all know im a witness and im baptized.i meant up with some of my friends from school and the guy i like and his friends.we walked around and talked and you know goofed off,me and him went to his friends car,we ended up having sex.omg i cant believe i actually did this,but we used protection.only thing is i feel kinda bad but then i dont,whats the deal,im think im going to get disfellowedshipped oh well.please anyone help me!!!
laura
((((Shytears))))
I have to agree with everyone, don't tell the elders. If you feel you have to confess; come here to the board or even talk with your "real" friends.(non-JW) Was this the same guy that you mentioned in your first post?? I agree with wasa about feeling guilty. What's done is done and if you regret it happened, then pretend that it didn't happen. I'm sure plenty of us have had that feeling "the morning after"!!! :)
you have plenty of support here so don't feel like you're all alone. you can always email me as well if you like ([email protected]) Take care
Dottie
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when i fisrt left the organization,i was always full of duobt that it was the truth.i can remember ,becoming an apostate,was the unforgivable sin.for about 10 years i wouldnot "say"the "religion"was untrue and full of lies.even tho i was never going to go back.ater i have heard a lot of the "b.s" about this so called religion,was i peaceful saying this was lies.. i am now a proud apostate.
I never realized that I was an apostate till I started reading up on the jw's and posting here as well. I wonder what my mom's going to think??!!?? *LOL*
Dottie
Although now I am a very HAPPY apostate than an unhappy JW. :)
Edited by - dottie on 27 October 2002 13:11:56
lyingeyes, i read your post to d.r.
and you mentioned that your ancestors are native american indians.
what nation?.
My dad's side of the family live at Six Nations in southwestern Ontario. I'm half Seneca and half Scottish...yeah growing up, I didn't have a chance *LOL* being a JW, half breed, and always alot taller then everyone else. I think it's hilarious now, but I really feel alot for my family that go through some crap being Indian and all. I find that racism isn't too bad around back home in Ontario, but where I live in Alberta now, it's pretty sketchy sometimes. Some Indians out here have given themselves quite a bad rep. Don't get me wrong the good outweigh the bad, as I now know a few at university. My brother DA'd himself saying that the JW's where just as bad as the other churches that tried to assimilate Indians in the early 1900's. He told the elder that he's an Indian and that believing in being an Indian (Great Spirt, Mother Earth, etc) was too important to him, and that he had no time for a white man to tell him how to give praise to God. *LOL* I really wish I had been there. I didn't know very many Indian JW's. The ones I did know where "fence-sitters". My Granma was/is. She was never baptized, still celebrates holidays & smokes, but she'll go to the District assemblies, or maybe the memorial.
Interesting topic though :)
Dottie
ps: Some good Indian movies: Last of the Mohicans, w/ Danial Day Lewis; Geronimo, w/ Gene Hackman; Thunderheart and Dances with Wolves were good, but I think they were more "story-like" than biographical like the 2 latter. A good book to read is "Where White Men Fear to Tread", by Russell Means, an old school activist.
hulloo all,.
to cut a very long and oft told story (on boards like this at any rate) very short, i was partially raised a jw (tho' never baptised), and now i've reached the stage where my very modest collection of dub literature must be disposed of.
it's lived in a box in attics and high shelves in various houses for the last 12 years during which time i've been sh*t scared to go near it, but equally scared to get rid of it for fear of seriously pissing off his almightyness up in the heavens.. well, over the past year i've been through a few of the usual "eye openers", coc & the gentile times thingumygig whatsit doodah, and evolution books too.
Well a bonfire's always fun...and with Halloween coming up, make some extra fun and have a big Halloween/bookburning party. You know the kind where everyone gets obscenely intoxicated, make asses of themselves then wake up the next morning and piss on the ashes.
Have fun and toss in an extra match for me :) (Although have fun safely, don't burn your house down!!)
Dottie
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hmm,i dont how too start off,but ill try,so im 16 yrs old,im being raised as a jw,and it is hard as hell,sometimes i think,if this is the right religion arent you suppose to be happy??
?well i really cant do anything about that because my parents say no way they will let me go in "the world" nonsense!so im stuck here ,lonely,depressed,and confused,sometimes i wish id die,but i know that wont help nothing.i want out of this org so bad,but i cant do nothing about it.there always telling me dont let satan and the bad asscioates influence you!im sick of that.all my friends well i shold say my ex friends they never helped me,my as they say:worldy friends did.. also i really really like this guy,i know he like me but he is worldy and i wish so badly i could date him,(i hate the term worldy,so stupid)my parents seriously will not give me space and they are stuck up my @ss.please if u have any commets i would sincerly appriciate it:) laura
(((((Shytears))))) Welcome!!!!!
Wow...I'm having this immense feeling of deja vu!! Shy, your situation is very similar to mine. Although that was 10 yrs ago now, I am out, live across the country from my mom, and yet still have a good "relationship" with her. I know that things a SO hard right now, I feel your anxiety, but you know what? Things DO get better with time and age. (Believe it or not, I didn't 10 yrs ago either :))
I really have to agree with the others about avoiding guys, or at least relationships with them. Get yourself focused on YOU, and the light at the end of the tunnel(getting out). See I took the opposite route, left home at 16, moved in with the first person available(which happened to be a guy) ended up in 2 different longterm relationships one was verbally abusive, and the other, well, I'm just not ready to go there yet. Needless to say, I put off any college, hell I didn't even finish High School.
Thankfully, things in the longrun turned out ok. Go to college, stay in residence, have the fun your supposed to have. I found that my so-called "worldly" friends were much more supportive, loving and understanding than any "truth- buddy". If I could go back I think that counselling (nothing religion related) would have had a tremendous help. Find ways to vent, keep a journal, take up jogging, & this board is always good for a vent!
You'll make it. I'm sure after venting a bit earlier, you felt a tad better. Just hold on, freedom will be yours eventually. I am very familiar with the guilt trips, try to turn a deaf ear, they can't talk forever(sometimes it doesn't seem that way).
(((((Shytears)))))
Dottie
3 times a year, at the end of every college term, her ladyship likes to have a joke to tell at the end of term party.
normally softly spoken and amiable, she likes to have a well rehearsed, totally original joke to tell at the party, the more raucous the better as far as she is concerned.
in fact, she has become something of a legend now, so that she is already being asked if she has her joke sorted out for xmas, so good at the telling of them is she.. the problem is, that this terms joke, whilst being exceedingly funny, does require the use of a welsh accent.
Two friends, a blonde and a redhead, are walking down the street and pass a flower shop where the redhead happens to see her boyfriend buying flowers. She sighs and says: "Oh crap, my boyfriend is buying me flowers again...for no reason!" The blonde looks quizzically at her and says, "What's the big deal, don't you like getting flowers?" The redhead replies, "Oh sure...but he always has expectations after giving me flowers, and I just don't feel like spending the next 3 days on my back with my legs in the air!" The blonde asks, "Don't you have a vase?"
i've noticed that this is the first holiday season for many here on the board.
that means there's gonna be some pretty sad xmas trees this year .
so my question is does anyone have any great holiday craft ideas????
Another easy thing is getting some nice ribbons to tie onto branches to fill in here and there. Make sure you get out to the sales after Christmas; there are always awesome deals on ornaments as they're clearing them out.
Have fun and Merry early Christmas!!
Dottie
there have been numerous recent threads about the level of psychiatric illness amongst the jw fraternity.
does anyone have any stories about the way in which this manifested itself with people in their congregations?.
i remember the brother who was found by the police in the early hours of the morning wandering about in the local park.
We didn't have any outbursts, but there were a few sisters that had a horrible time with depression and other mental anxieties. I thinks it's very sad because this so-called "flock" did not ever lend any emotional support to these women or their families. If anyone ever noticed that they weren't at the meeting, it was always "oh she's not feeling 'well' tonight". One single mother in the cong. had a very bad bout of depression and do you think any of those snooty elder's wives went to check on her or even call her? Not a one. My mom(also separated), and a couple of the other single moms would help her out. Strangely enough they are all still devoted to that "flock"!
Dottie
