i have heard from many people when i would go out in the ministry that "we" witness do not believe in jesus.
when my mother first heard about me becoming interested in the witness that is what she said.
ive seen some make that same statement here.
However, Jesus is relegated to a minor role
Well, I must say that the article I read on the Website was far from relegating Jesus to a minor role. It stated that Jesus is the way to true happiness and is the only hope for mankind. That too me sounds like a very important figure. The article even encourages people to IMITATE him.
john 20:30-31
30 to be sure, jesus performed many other signs also before the disciples, which are not written down in this scroll.
31 but these have been written down that you may believe that jesus is the christ the son of god, and that, because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.
Your mention of loving our neighbor brings up the same problems though. Can we honestly, sincerely and truly love, because we are commanded to? and not only commanded to, but have the dynamics of greed for reward, and/or fear of punishment added?
I think that our motives to love is not only and solely based on command. Along with the command God has SHOWN, DEMONSTRATED it to us even at great cost to himself. So love is caused not only by command but by motivation and desire and appreciation for the one who loved us FIRST.
i have heard from many people when i would go out in the ministry that "we" witness do not believe in jesus.
when my mother first heard about me becoming interested in the witness that is what she said.
ive seen some make that same statement here.
I have heard from many people when I would go out in the ministry that "WE" witness do not believe in Jesus. When my mother first heard about me becoming interested in the Witness that is what she said. Ive seen some make that same statement here. It is interesting that on thier official website they have an article featured for all to read entitled..." How Jesus can change your life." What are your thoughts?
i know that many who left the organization left for there own reasons, which are interestingly similar.
is there anything (teaching) that stuck with them.
i am mainly refering to the princibles that are taught.
Another positive thing I learned being in the ORG, unfortunatley from a bad experience, but it was not to expect perfection from people.
i've been reading a few articles on the subject of jehovah being jesus in the new testament, which makes perfect sense.
as i don't believe the bible is the word of god (or has been severely altered by man), i do believe there may be some small shreds of truth.
could it be that yahweh in the ot is jesus of the nt?
Another point is that not only Jesus went by Gods word and considered it his word and important the disciples after him felt the same.
1 Peter 1:25 "The sayings of jehovah endure forever....."
i've been reading a few articles on the subject of jehovah being jesus in the new testament, which makes perfect sense.
as i don't believe the bible is the word of god (or has been severely altered by man), i do believe there may be some small shreds of truth.
could it be that yahweh in the ot is jesus of the nt?
jesus knew a time was coming when the "word" would be deceptive:
Sinis I must say that Judging from Jesus words in the opening statements he made in the book of revelations that the word would be something we would need to read and go by....notice what he said.......Revelations 1 :3 "Happy is he who READS aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy and who OBSERVE the things written in it........"
That prophecy ws written by paul and is part of Gods written word. Now there will come a time were NEW scrolls will be opened for us to obey, but that time is in the future. So for now the bible is Gods way of instucting us.
i've been reading a few articles on the subject of jehovah being jesus in the new testament, which makes perfect sense.
as i don't believe the bible is the word of god (or has been severely altered by man), i do believe there may be some small shreds of truth.
could it be that yahweh in the ot is jesus of the nt?
Sinis I tend to believe that God is powerful enough to have his word perserved intact and as he intended it to be. I mean dont we have original documents in archives that have been PRESERVED by humans without any tampering? I can name many. If man can do it. Surely it would pose no problem for God to do the same dont you think?
i've been reading a few articles on the subject of jehovah being jesus in the new testament, which makes perfect sense.
as i don't believe the bible is the word of god (or has been severely altered by man), i do believe there may be some small shreds of truth.
could it be that yahweh in the ot is jesus of the nt?
I do know from the Scriptures that Jesus Highly regarded the written scrolls as the Word of God and went by them. I remember one instance in perticular whe Satan tried to tempt Jesus. The three times Jesus was tempted by him he (Jesus) used Scripture to refute and set Satan straight. Interestingly enough Satan did used scripture as well but he twisted the actual meaning of the texts.
i know that many who left the organization left for there own reasons, which are interestingly similar.
is there anything (teaching) that stuck with them.
i am mainly refering to the princibles that are taught.
Swan I have sympothy for you.
i know that many who left the organization left for there own reasons, which are interestingly similar.
is there anything (teaching) that stuck with them.
i am mainly refering to the princibles that are taught.
swan I think you may have misunderstood my intentions for this thread. I know that people makes changes for the good without being a JW, I was just simply wondering if for some, positive changes were made for thier benefit from being in the org.
