Posts by Jerohobobonadad

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What went on in Mexico and Malawi?

by Jerohobobonadad in

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hello all i hope you are well.. forgive my ignorance again, but what happened in mexico/ malawi?

when did it happen?.

i keep seeing references to these places in various topics.. anyone got a good link that explains it clearly.

Jerohobobonadad

"For the most part they were able to return to their villages and rebuild their homes and Kingdom Halls. Many of those who had once mistreated Jehovah’s witnesses now came and asked forgiveness, and a number of them are now Witnesses themselves. During this time the Witnesses in Malawi might be said to have “entered into a period of peace, being built up,” much as did the early Christians under similar circumstances."

They returned to rebuild their Kingdom Halls. Lucky them. They are like the early Christians - How nice.

This is awful.

I read the links on voting also, I am shocked.

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A THANK YOU to the board

by Jerohobobonadad in

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hello again.. i just thought i'd say "thanks" to all of the contributors to this board (and other boards/ websites, but mostly to this board).. i only started looking on the internet for info on the wtbts about 2 months ago.

for years i had huge doubts about the org, but no facts to rationalise these doubts.

some individuals have obviously spent many hours going through the societies literature and researching the history of the org and made this research widely available on line.. i can only imagine what it must have been like 10 or 20 years ago if a "witness" had doubts - where would you go to find out the facts?

Jerohobobonadad

Hello again.

I just thought I'd say "Thanks" to all of the contributors to this board (and other boards/ websites, but mostly to this board).

I only started looking on the internet for info on the WTBTS about 2 months ago. For years I had huge doubts about the org, but no facts to rationalise these doubts. Some individuals have obviously spent many hours going through the societies literature and researching the history of the org and made this research widely available on line.

I can only imagine what it must have been like 10 or 20 years ago if a "witness" had doubts - where would you go to find out the facts? I have a great deal of respect for those who made an exit back then. It must have been a lot more difficult than now. When I saw this board, I suddenly realised that I was not alone with the questions and opinions I had. I had known for a few years that questions were not allowed or you would be labelled apostate so just kept myself to myself. I could have carried on like that for years. I now have my exit strategy and feel a lot better for it!

So, thanks everyone.

Jerohobo

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What went on in Mexico and Malawi?

by Jerohobobonadad in

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friends

hello all i hope you are well.. forgive my ignorance again, but what happened in mexico/ malawi?

when did it happen?.

i keep seeing references to these places in various topics.. anyone got a good link that explains it clearly.

Jerohobobonadad

Hello all I hope you are well.

Forgive my ignorance again, but what happened in Mexico/ Malawi? When did it happen?

I keep seeing references to these places in various topics.

Anyone got a good link that explains it clearly. I have tried looking around, but have only found out that Malawi involved Government ID Cards or something - I'm not jus being lazy!

Thanks

Jerohobo

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Strange Experiences

by Jerohobobonadad in

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hello all i hope you are well.. i've had very strange experiences recently.. i've had discussions with a few friends, who i would never have thought would say anything against da troof, who agree with all i've said about the inaccuracies of the org and said things i hadn't realised.. i've had discussions with one of my siblings and they said they didn't believe any of the wtbts teachings, then later that week had discussions with my parents with sibling present, where sibling has sided with parents and disagreed with everything i've said, even though they agreed a few days before.. i've had discussions with a friend, who hasn't been to meetings for ages, say how disappointed they were with some of our friends who have stopped going to meetings.

the friend could only talk about when the big a would come - why don't they go back to the org then?.

i have learnt recently to never be amazed by the ability for rational humans to state beliefs in private, yet publicly say the absolute opposite.. i feel as though i'm on the outside looking in when i talk to these people.

Jerohobobonadad

Hello all I hope you are well.

I've had very strange experiences recently.

I've had discussions with a few friends, who i would never have thought would say anything against da troof, who agree with all i've said about the inaccuracies of the org and said things i hadn't realised.

I've had discussions with one of my siblings and they said they didn't believe any of the WTBTS teachings, then later that week had discussions with my parents with sibling present, where sibling has sided with parents and disagreed with everything i've said, even though they agreed a few days before.

I've had discussions with a friend, who hasn't been to meetings for ages, say how disappointed they were with some of our friends who have stopped going to meetings. The friend could only talk about when the big A would come - why don't they go back to the org then?

I have learnt recently to never be amazed by the ability for rational humans to state beliefs in private, yet publicly say the absolute opposite.

I feel as though I'm on the outside looking in when I talk to these people. I just cannot understand how people can hold such conflicting thoughts, yet still rationalise them in their own minds. I feel like I am talking to brainwashed people.

I really hope my siblings and friends can wake up from this stupor.

Does anyone else feel like this?

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Sex before marriage = a miserable marriage according to WTBTS!

by Gill in

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the anti sex beatings from the wtbts go on and on!.

november 1st 2006 'awake'.

this particular mag has an article on 'does romantic love justify premrital sex?'.

Jerohobobonadad

I'm afraid I have to agree with the WTBTS.

Sex before marriage is CERTAIN to cause an unhappy marriage.

Consider a young witness who has premarital sex with a nubile sex kitten/ adonis (delete as appropriate) from the world then enters into the divine marital arrangement (TM) with a clueless spazzo from the hall. The couple of minutes thrusting under the covers after reading the Awake!, will always remind the young witness of what is being missed out on.

Conclusion: pre-marital sex = unhappy marriage.

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Walking Round London Town

by slimboyfat in

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i love the london accent!

it just speaks to tremendous cynicism about everything, and overarching confidence that everything of significance in life has already been cracked, to be explained to outsiders - if they can be bothered.

non-londoners are clearly naive by comparison.

Jerohobobonadad

My 2 cents...

She's a fake. She's 21, she's from a wealthy background. She went to private school. Where would she have got these experiences from? (Words to LDN)

"Riding through the city on my bike all day
Cause the filth took away my licence
It doesn't get me down and I feel ok
Cause the sights that I'm seeing are priceless

Everything seems to look as it should
But I wonder what goes on behind doors
A fella looking dapper, but he's sittin with a slapper
Then I see it's a pimp and his crack whore"

She also says she was dealing ecstacy at 15. Buying a pill or 2 then flogging them to your school mates is not dealing.

Pull the other one. But, it's nice work if you can get. She's already made more money than I'll ever in my life so fair play to her. It's only entertainment at the end of the day.

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Were you afraid of what they thought about you in the Kingdom Hall?

by The wanderer in

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were you afraid of what people thought about you in the kingdom hall?

throughout my tenure as one of jehovah's witnesses, i could not help notice how individuals.

became so conscious of what others thought about them.

Jerohobobonadad

I heard they spent $50,000 putting special acoustic ceiling tiles in an assembly hall once. I bet it didn't make any difference to the sound quality. I wonder who gets to vote on those issues. If that's true I would have thought that could be better spent on halls in timbuktu or buying those new fangled cell saver machines.

Years ago, this old guy voted against buying new chairs for the hall. We were going through a quick build and were presented with three options:

1) clean the old chairs and give them a lick of paint. cheapest

2) buy new plastic chairs. cheap

3) buy new comfy foam chairs. expensive

The chap doing the announcing added that the BOE's position was to buy new comfy foam chairs (I see nought wrong with that - they had to state their position). Everyone voted for new comfy chairs. He voted for a lick of paint - he held his hand up with real style so everyone would see the dissent. He was an interesting chap, the old boy. I'll post a good story about him one day - it involves understanding that famous "generation".

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Were you afraid of what they thought about you in the Kingdom Hall?

by The wanderer in

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were you afraid of what people thought about you in the kingdom hall?

throughout my tenure as one of jehovah's witnesses, i could not help notice how individuals.

became so conscious of what others thought about them.

Jerohobobonadad

1.) Were you fearful about what others thought about you?

2.) Did you hold back on how you felt about certain matters
because you wanted to conform to the program?

3.) What about on this discussion board, do you allow others
to dictate the pace for you?

Good questions.

1) I suppose I was at times, but only fearful of what certain people thought. I went through a few stages of being quite JW serious, ususally cos I fancied a girl (it seemed that you had to be seen to be making an effort if you wanted to bag that nice witty girl) and I wanted her folks to see me as a nice young brother. So I suppose I was fearful of how others saw me. Pretty shallow reasons for wnting to be a good little witty boy with hindsight. Is it any wonder I didn't have a JW girllfriend?!

2) Yes, for the following reason. When I was 19 we had a family debate (as we always did at lunch) I started questioning the WT sin gene theory and basically said it was a load of tripe. Queue angry scenes as they said if the WT said it must be true. I said what about 1975? Queue very angry scenes - one of my grandparents accused me of attacking their faith and threatend to "bury you in a hole in the garden". That was quite a traumatic experience really, I was very naieve then and thought you were allowed to question things. I decided not to ask any more questions after that.

3) I'm too new to comment really, but I hope ths board is the polar opposite of the WTBTS - a place where any questions or comments can be made without threat of being burried in the garden! I am going to speak my mind on this board. I'm not a racist or a bigot so I shouldn't step on too many toes!

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Getting caught

by Schism in

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(you're going to laugh at my paranoia).

has anyone ever gotten caught posting in here?.

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Jerohobobonadad

I am completely paranoid.

I still have my suspicions that this site is run by the GB, everyother poster is a stooge who eggs you on to spout more and more apostacy until they have enough evidence on you to hang you out to dry. I'm still not happy that my IP address is on the posts.

To register on this site I set up a new, untraceable email account that is used only for this, and I made up my screen name with the most unlikely name I could think of so it would be untraceable. I have changed my writing style and the words I use. I delete my history and restart the computer after everytime I log on to this board.

Me paranoid? Pah! Seriously tho, could this board be run by the thought police, i mean GB? Could it? Could it?!

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Did your JW social life only consist of meals at a friends home?

by truthseeker in

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i know many here who have had good and bad jw social experiences.

some went camping, hiking etc, went to the beach.

some had no social life at all in the org and some had congregations where nothing ever happened socially.. i know of one sister, who has since left, who complained that the only thing witnesses did when they got together, was share a meal.. now, there's nothing wrong with sharing a meal.

Jerohobobonadad

Hello everyone, good topic by the way.

The social life of my parents was excellent. They are very welcoming people and are happy to have everyone round. They are not well off people at all, but everyone would be made to muck in and we'd then have full congregation get togethers at the house (i mean full congregation, not just the "in-crowd" - these happened in summer and be in the garden, everyone wouldn't fit into our house!) These would usually start early afternoon - adults would chat, us kids would play then in the evening we'd all play board games or just chat around. Sometimes people would bring guitars and sing some songs (not kigdum melodies btw). They were always having people over for dinner, usually twice a month a family or 2 would come over for dinner etc on Sat night. They always used to invite the visiting speaker back on sunday, even if they didn't know them. We sometimes used to put up the strays and waifs that drifted through as well. When we moved in the mid 80's, the cong we went to was real old school. No new members for years, BOE dominated by the local families etc, very reserved and it first caused a bit of stir that the get togethers were organised. I think it would be fair to say they changed that cong for the better in their own way. Now their socail life is just as good, but I would say they have settled into their own little scene now, but their scene isn't really the other elders families - more the friends they've known for years.

My social life growing up was awesome, but prob for the wrong reasons! Almost every weekend, with few exceptions, from the age of 16 were spent getting smashed at either the pub or someones house when the folks were away. I first went to a proper ravey night club when I was 16. I was a regular at the trendy bar in town at age 16 with all my pals (all good JWs). All my school friends were jealous of my social life. It was excellent and still is - perhaps why I'm reluctant to finally say bye bye to some of the excellent friends i have (I know conditional friends, but friends nonetheless). I hardly had any "worldly" friends until I was early 20's. I suppose I have been lucky - got no complaints me, but i do know some kids that didn't fit in and were excluded in a way. I should have made more of an effort with hindsight.