Posts by Santisimo

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Going door to door to recruit members doesn't work

by JH in

when you look at all the hours they do going door to door world wide and then you look at how many hours preaching it takes to bring just 1 person to their organization, it's not efficient.. my mom goes to a baptist church now, and i was surprised to know that 500 go to that meeting on sundays and they don't go door to door to go get these people.. there might be 80 witnesses at my hall and going door to door doesn't make much of a difference.

maybe it's even counter productive since people don't like being pested at home..

Santisimo

Not to mention that there is no concrete proof in the NT that Jesus preached door to door. When Jesus told his apostles to speak to others he only commanded them to talk to Jews, not Gentiles. His commandment was broken decades after his death.

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God can bring us the peace that America took away.

by Santisimo in

what truth am i talking about?

freedom?

if bin laden is killing americans because he 'hates freedom' (as bush and the yellow-media put it), then why aren't we allowed to see his videos full-length with english subtitles?

Santisimo

Bush has spent years talking about fighting for freedom in the Middle East and bringing Democracy to Muslim countries. Bush has done nothing but lie and send thousands to their deaths in the name of oil. In doing so, he has started a war with a people who know war better than we do. The Muslim culture has over a thousand years of experience fighting against Western powers and has never known what it is to surrender. The United States has done everything possible to keep the truth from coming to light, but the last six years have revealed a great deal. It has taught us that the United States is not the boy scout of the world that once fought oppression during WWII.

What truth am I talking about? The truth is that THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT is behind most of the chaos that is now enveloping the world. Have you read about the history of oil production in Iraq? How about Saudi Arabia? Take some time to research this and you will discover that our government was behind the scenes every step of the way. From the first day the oil wells started pumping to the day the CIA removed Prince 'Abd al-Ilah and installed Saddam Hussein, our government was behind the scenes. American politicians and oil industry execs have done everything imagineable to control the production of oil in the middle east to the detriment of it's own people. We've paid the price physically and financially with 9/11, the wars in Afghanistan (unfinished) and Iraq (we're losing) and soon Iran (a nuclear war is on the way). For what? Freedom? Freedom from the 'tyrants' we installed in the first place? Did anyone forget that we've been fighting against the Iranians since President Carter? The freedom we're fighting for is the freedom to profit from oil.

Are Americans at home free? Think about this, in the late 90's GM had developed a fully electric automobile. A zero-emissions vehicle that would have put an end to global warming, health risks and most importantly, dependency on foreign oil imports. Was the car fast? Yes, faster than most six-cyclinders on the road today. Efficient? You bet, 100 miles on a single charge. Was there demand? A survey in California revealed that 85% of people questioned would have considered buying an electric vehicle if was affordable (and it was!). But what happened? GM, the American oil cartels and our government buried the technology, took back the cars and destroyed them, keeping us at the mercy of oil ever since. Now Ford and GM are crying because they can't sell their ugly, inefficient cars? Now Gore is running around talking to us about global warming? Didn't he know about the EV (electric vehicle)?

Does anyone really think that Bush is interested in liberating poor Muslims living in miserable conditions in the Middle East? Does anyone really believe he wants us to stop using foreign oil? If so, why is it that his National Security advisor is a former Chevron Executive, Condoleeza Rice? Did you know that Chevron even named a tanker after her (proof at: http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/condoleeza-rice/)? Would they have done this if she WAS NOT helping them produce profits? If she helped Chevron make billions while Muslims in those countries were being exploited, why is she working for Bush now? Did she have a change of heart or is she there to protect oil interests at a higher level?

The United States has nothing to sell to the world anymore. Everything is made in China, high tech jobs have gone to India, and free trade agreements have killed our agriculture. We can't even profit from manufacturing anymore. Our export goods like cars are pathetic and nobody wants them. Consider this, Ford owns more car brands (Volvo, Jaguar etc.) but it's still going broke. The U.S. dollar has lagged behind the Euro since it's inception and less investors are willing to buy dollars (thanks to the war and lousy production). So what's left? OIL! Oil is the only thing that we have left to fight for. Our economy depends on it There is enough oil left underground to keep our economy going for at least another hundred years. To Bush and the oil industry, it's worth all the bullets and bodies in the world.

This is not to say that terrorists (pissed-off Muslims to be more precise) have a right to slaughter innocent people. I am not a Muslim and don't believe in the Koran (a bad copy of the Torah). However, who knows exactly what these terrorists are upset about? If Bin Laden is killing Americans because he 'hates freedom' (as Bush and the yellow-media put it), then why aren't we allowed to see his videos full-length with English subtitles? Didn't we do the same with Hitler's speeches? After all, what better way is there to prove that Hitler was a racist bastard than by showing us his filmed speeches with English subtitles? Why can't the American government do the same for Bin Laden's speeches? What's the big secret? Is it possible that Bin Laden is fed up with Americans supporting tyrannical regimes in the Mid-East for the sake of oil and is now willing to explain it on TV? Does Bush think he is preventing terrorists from acting in the U.S. just because they can't see Bin Laden videos on cable TV? What are we not supposed to hear on those tapes? The truth?

The last five years have really shown what America stands for. It doesn't stand for diplomacy, integrity much less humanity. The United States doesn't care about mankind much less the environment. The United States is the Roman Empire reincarnated. It oppresses from without and from within.

I pray that G-d sends his Messiah soon, because this promised King is the only one who can bring peace to the world. I pray that G-d may spare us from the horrors that our 'leaders' decisions have brought on us. I pray that one day I wake up and see the image of G-d's annointed broadcast on every cell phone, computer and television set on earth. I pray that I may live to hear Him teach us how to make peace and how to bring the earth back to the paradise that G-d intended for us.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 1-14-07 WT Study (Love Neighbor)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 01-14-07 wt study (december 1, 2006, pages 25-29)(love neighbor).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Santisimo

What commandments are they referring to in paragraph 1 of this article? They can't be talking about the 10 commandments because if that were true, anyone could do that without being a JW. With the exception of the blood law, they don't follow any other commandment in the OT. So what are they talking about?

Also, how could they be talking about loving thy neighbor when they treat their DF'd family members like crap?

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WHY GOD CANNOT FORGIVE YOU

by Terry in

it is little understood by christians what a difference there is between themselves and judaism; especially on the matter of whom god forgives and why.. a christian expects to sin against many people in the course of their life, but; proudly boasts that they aren't "perfect just forgiven.

" this is wrong by judaism's ethical, moral and theologic standards.. let me explain why.. in judaism; only the person you sin against can forgive you!.

if you steal from bob; only bob (the injured party) can forgive you.

Santisimo

Hey Terry:

If you're into Judaism that's great. Since leaving the J-Dubs I've been studying Judaism and very answers that the Org could never provide. Let me know if I can send a PM directly to you with questions. Thanks!

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Local support group for ex-JWs in South Florida. Good idea?

by Santisimo in

let me know what you think of my idea.

i was thinking about starting a local support group for ex-jws who want to meet former members and air out their feelings about leaving the borg.

the group would be based out of the ft. lauderdale, florida area.

Santisimo

Hi Everyone:

Let me know what you think of my idea. I was thinking about starting a local support group for ex-JWs who want to meet former members and air out their feelings about leaving the Borg. The group would be based out of the Ft. Lauderdale, Florida area. I think I can contribute in a meaningful way to this cause by being a sincere listener and perhaps offering some advice. What do you think I should do to start? I think this may be very useful for those who are not tech-savvy like us and would like a person-to-person forum to have their opinions heard.

I would appreciate the great advice of everyone on this forum. Thanks!

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Watchtower and Freemasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by ZEN in

i've been doing this research for several months now on the internet and i can't believe what i'm finding.

watchtower has deep roots in demonic freemasonary cult.

did any of you have more research on it?

Santisimo

The JW Headquarters, "Bethel" as they call it, was originally a large Masonic Temple before it was converted. I'm not sure how many Freemasons you may know of, but the differences between them and JWs is enormous. I would rather spend my time with a Freemason than a JW. You'd learn something more useful and you make better friends.

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Anyone have the Jan 15 07 Watchtower?

by Euphemism in

would anyone happen to have a copy of the jan 15, 2007 watchtower?

i need either a paper copy or a scan of the article "when a child rebels.".

thanks in advance to anyone who can help!.

Santisimo

This explains why my parents have been acting all weird. I've been DF'd for a couple of years now (thankfully). However, they haven't kept in touch with any regularity. Now I know why. Thanks WTS.

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AIDS was brought to mankind by pharmaceutical industry. Click for proof.

by Santisimo in

http://www.aidsorigins.com/.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-32590729008993442.

check out the website, make some time and view the documentary for free via the link i posted and make up your own mind.

Santisimo

The pharma industry DID NOT create the AIDS virus. They helped spread the virus from chimpanzee to man during their experiments with polio vaccine. Some of the experimental polio vaccine was created with kidney parts from chimps (who were known carriers of HIV). These infected kidneys were part of the vaccine which was given to millions of men, women and children in Congo. THIS IS A FACT. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD SEE THE DOCUMENTARY BEFORE YOU MAKE A COMMENT???

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A QUESTION FOR THE CHRISTIANS ON THIS BOARD

by vitty in

what is the second comming of christ, i mean what will happen...............armageddon??????????

destruction for anyone who isnt a christian ?.

he he going restore paradise on earth ????????.

Santisimo

The Messiah will appear but it's not going to be Jesus. He will be the only one with a solution for the lasting peace between Christians, Muslims and Jews. Will there be a war before he arrives? Most likely. A nuclear war? Most likely. Will millions die? Hopefully not.

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AIDS was brought to mankind by pharmaceutical industry. Click for proof.

by Santisimo in

http://www.aidsorigins.com/.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-32590729008993442.

check out the website, make some time and view the documentary for free via the link i posted and make up your own mind.

Santisimo

Excuse me?