i understand from news of the world that anthony gough wants to sue the hospital because he feels they were neglient in saving his wife's life.
AlphaOmega
Slightly off topic, does anyone know if Gamma Globulin is permitted for JWs ?
The WT say whole blood, the four components of blood (white cells, red cells, platelets and plasma) cannot be used in their current state, but as long as these components are broken down again anything derived is permitted to use.
Therefore Gamma Globulin is permitted.
i watched this film last night, and it made me really really grateful that we have free health care in the uk.
i know we complain about the state of the nhs, but the bottom line is if there is ever anything wrong with me my first thought will not be 'does my insurance cover this' or 'can i afford this'.. there was one part of the film where michael moore takes some people to cuba to get free health care and one woman picks up inhalers for 5 cents a piece, that are costing her $120 in the us.
she just breaks down and crys at the disparity of the cost.. it was also telling to see the insurance companies employ people specifically to try and find ways to deny claims or to void policies where a claim has been made.
have a free baby.
LMAO
Now, Katiekitten you know thats not true.
By the way, Congratulations.
now that i can see right through the crap that is the jw religion, i sometimes ask myself - how come you blindly believed all that rubbish for 30 years??!!
i am so annoyed with myself for that - i have a degree, yet i was totally duped for such a large part of my life.
and now that i can see how so full of holes it all is, i kick myself for not seeing it before.
But, the good part is it is in the past, leave it there. Now ,look to the rest of your life as a chance to do positive things for yourself and others !
Amen Mr Flipper
i hope you don't mind me posting.
my sister has been a witness for it must be 25 years.
when they came calling years ago she was at a low ebb and had been trying to read the bible but failing to understand it.
msiajw
Your sister is typical in not allowing herself to reason.
No one could have told me I was wrong, I would have argued for England and felt thoroughly proud of myself.
My guess is there will be possibly one issue that she has that troubles her. With me it was blood, my wife it was the love in the congregation, mother in law the static memorial partakers.
I tried to convince my wife the falseness of the WT by arguing the blood issue, this was useless because it wasn't an issue for her.
I say don't argue too strongly, she has to see it for herself.
It will be hard and a long road to take, but keep up hope that one day she will see it, just be there for her. My wife eventually came to to her senses. It is a great feeling.
Good luck
now that i can see right through the crap that is the jw religion, i sometimes ask myself - how come you blindly believed all that rubbish for 30 years??!!
i am so annoyed with myself for that - i have a degree, yet i was totally duped for such a large part of my life.
and now that i can see how so full of holes it all is, i kick myself for not seeing it before.
Yep,
Isn't it just obvious, its just a bag of poo.
But I too fell for it, what a numbskull.
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mum aged 22 dies for jehovah.... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article427045.ece.
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momcrazy
Isn't it amazing how we read the same material but interpret it completely differently.
I see absolutely no bashing of the mother, infact the complete opposite.
I would say most of us who were JWs would have done exactly the same.
I am embarrased/ashamed/disgusted with myself, but I too would probably sacrificed my life and the life of my loved ones for the Watchtower. Luckily I was never put into that position.
Faundy
Read the posts again, where is the glee. Show me one quote where someone is gleeful.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/7078455.stm .
a young mother has died after giving birth to twins, following claims that she had refused a blood transfusion because of her faith.
jehovah's witness, emma gough, 22, from telford, shropshire, gave birth on 25 october.
my question is purely a technical one..(not an emotional one)
so again i repeat - why do we care..
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mum aged 22 dies for jehovah.... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article427045.ece.
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Just wanted to register my disgust.
The shame of it is that they actually believe the ***** the WT spouts. Those poor people involved will be completely devastated when one day they realise the sham.
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
I was fading and spoke strongly to an elder who called, about a few issues. A few days later I had a call it was from an elder at the KH to ask whether I considered myself a JW. I didn't want to answer that directly because I thought they would use my answer to say I had DA'd myself. So after avoiding answering the question he finally asked if they could come and see me. I said something like, "no, I wouldn't bother"
I was expecting to be hounded, however I have been left alone, that was probably over a year ago now.
The reason I now reckon is because somewhere in the shepherding book it says if someone has been out for a while and don't consider themselves a JW then they can be left and not DF'd even if they are doing wrong. However, if you agree to meet with them you are showing yourself as still under their authority and therefore are likely to be DF'd if you are "doing wrong".
Conclusion is, from my experience, don't meet with them.
http://beehive.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/default.asp?wci=sitehome&id=12882&pageid=78664.
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copy and paste link to your browser.
Scully you have a PM
I have sent an email to the website owners. It is a community based network hosted by a local media company.
(Edited to add) I therefore don't expect he will have access to IP info.
