Hello all! I don't know about the rest of you, but in my geographical area, it seems that when a person is df'd, it raises their risk of suicide. Not only did I lose my baby sister when she was 21 this way, but in the last 5 years there have been seven people in the circuit who have taken their own lives. Some perhaps are considering it, or have attempted it and nobody reveals it. Recently and elder who was "deleted" ended his life in a rural high school parking lot because of the shame of an affair. Could this be the antithesis to, "By this all will know that you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves?" Comments, please, I am hurting for these people.
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19How many need to die before it raises a flag?!
by loli ini don't know about the rest of you, but in my geographical area, it seems that when a person is df'd, it raises their risk of suicide.
not only did i lose my baby sister when she was 21 this way, but in the last 5 years there have been seven people in the circuit who have taken their own lives.
some perhaps are considering it, or have attempted it and nobody reveals it.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 9-10-06 WT Study (FEAR GOD)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 09-10-06 wt study (august 1, 2006, pages 21-25)(fear god) .
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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Did you block out your Witness life?
by achickwwit ini stopped going to meetings at age 19 or 20. my brother had been df'd.
my sister and her new bethalite husband had left the organization labeled as apostates, and my single mom followed suit.
i was pretty much raised by the congregation, though i lived with my isolated mother.
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loli
Welcome! I have been away from the org for almost six years now. Some elelments I have consciously blocked out. Other things still plague me in my dream state. I will have dreams about judicial committee meetings, etc. Just learn to really live life by seeking happiness and accept yourself for who you are. Peace
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Name the Books That Impacted You The Most.
by XJW4EVR inanything by raymond franz is a given.. 1984. siddartha.
lord of the flies.
grapes of wrath.
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"How to Know God" Deepak Chopra, "Gospel of Thomas Commentary" Jean-Yves Leloup, "Tomorrow's God" Neale Donald Walsch, any title from Wayne Dyer
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Anyone been to a Red Hot Chilli Pepper's concert????
by BLISSISIGNORANCE inmy 16yo son has just bought his very first concert ticket and it's for the rhcp concert in sydney australia in april 2007. he is sooooooo excited!!!
he was taking photos of the ticket last night and asked for a frame to put it in!
he is very cute.
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Hi BLISS! Haven't been yet, but I'm taking my son next month for his 17th birthday. I'm sure it will be great. He is a Chad Smith fan (they both play the same drum kit). Your son will have a blast!
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Top ten issues to prove that JW's do not have "the truth"
by TweetieBird ini am trying to compile a list of proof's, issues, lies, etc that prove that the wts is not jehovah's channel.
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what are your top reasons for now believing that it is not the truth?
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The witnesses claim to have absolute truth. Uhhh...but it keeps changing. Also, they claim to be so loving, but some of the most mean-spirited, intolerant people are the "leaders." They say they honor Jesus, but, isn't the GB extremely similar to the Pharisees of his day? Jesus was all about your spirit on the inside, not all the external showy stuff that gets attention from other humans. Hope this helps.
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But what if they're right............still the Truth?
by ScoobySnax inthis will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
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loli
Hi Scooby! Didn't Jesus say that love would be the identifying mark of his followers? How can you pull your love away from someone just because the object of their affection happens to be of the same gender? Puh-leeeez! Wherever any one of us can find another person to share companionship, love, or even hot swinginging-from-the-rafters sex, why is that a bad thing as long as all involved are consenting? Why would the supposed supreme diety of all eternity care about such things? Homophobia is not a loving attitude in my opinion. Good luck!
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Did anyone really buy into the "Universal Sovereignty" issue?
by loli ini am new to the forum, but not new to jw indoctrination.
even as a child, i would ask myself, "why would the almighty creator need to prove anything to anyone, including him/her/itself?
really, one of the few scriptures that i do actually agree with is that 'god is love.
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Just curious if Blondie replied to Wasanelderonce. I'm fascinated by her wealth of info.
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Did anyone really buy into the "Universal Sovereignty" issue?
by loli ini am new to the forum, but not new to jw indoctrination.
even as a child, i would ask myself, "why would the almighty creator need to prove anything to anyone, including him/her/itself?
really, one of the few scriptures that i do actually agree with is that 'god is love.
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Hi zico! Try this on: what if god (in whatever form) IS actually secure enough to allow humans to govern themselves apart from him/her/itself? What if the garden of eden myth is actually just a metaphor for what happens when beings use their own free will? Come on, free will can't be free if the one giving it tells the recipient how it is to be used. Further, Adam and Eve (still not sure if I buy that humanity started with them) were supposedly perfect. They did not know good from bad before they partook of the fruit, SOOOOO, how the heck could they be responsible for all the terrible things if they were incapable of knowing what was evil? It just doesn't make sense. What if the metaphor is illustrating the idea that we all start in spirit as complete and perfect. We choose to separate ourselves from perfection in order to experience things of the physical realm. (casting ourselves out of the garden) I guess I try to reconcile elements of different philosophies (Eastern and otherwise)to see the best in all beliefs. namaste'
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Needed.
by dfrizzy ini was raised a witness, and was one for 18 years of my life.
now at 21 i'm very much out of it (the organization that is).
i still have a few friends that are in the organization.
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loli
Hi there! I am new also. Some books that I have enjoyed (in addition to Crisis of Conscience)are: Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman and Why Christianity Must Change or Die by John Shelby Spong. Both authors are very objective and don't really bash anyone. They each have other titles as well. Peace to you!