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  Revised Letter to my Mother--Possibly the LONGEST in history...

  by Confession in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted another version of this a few months back.

  at the time i asked for comments on it, and subsequently ignored almost everything anyone told me.

  " others recommended a differet tone.

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  BabaYaga

  Your quote:
  
  "But I'll be damned if I'm going to let that bunch of authoritarian nuts in Brooklyn scare me from trying to help my family look at ALL THE FRIGGING INFORMATION!"
  
  You know what? You're a better man than I am, Gunnga Din. If I'm not careful, you'll inspire me to open my mouth to my family, too. ;)
  
  You rock. May we publish your letter for mass distribution? I'm only slightly in jest. Edited to be more generalized, I think this would be a MARVELOUS "tract" to hand back to Witnesses at the door...
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  But what if they're right............still the Truth?

  by ScoobySnax in

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  2. family

  this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.

  it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.

  i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.

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  Jeezus gods kerYST, ScoobySnax...
  
  Do you ENJOY making yourself feel like shite?
  
  Let me put it this way... JEHOVAH LOVES YOU EXACTLY AS YOU ARE, and HIS so-called "Witnesses" DO NOT. Who are you trying to kid? Do something for your self-esteem, quit making things difficult for yourself.
  
  You can believe the parts that you feel are true and not have to live with their bullshit. Active Witnesses are not allowed to do that. Look, Man, Jehovah is bigger than they think he is. Don't you see that?
  
  Strength to you. You have plenty of strength inside of you already, that is apparent by the fact taht you left and lived your life, now for gods' sake, love yourself, dammit.
  
  The ashes on your head do not become you.
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  Revised Letter to my Mother--Possibly the LONGEST in history...

  by Confession in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted another version of this a few months back.

  at the time i asked for comments on it, and subsequently ignored almost everything anyone told me.

  " others recommended a differet tone.

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  BabaYaga

  Confession, I think this piece of writing is incredible and I have already (rather extensively) commented... I was concerned that sending it would only alienate your Mother further and make your life that much more difficult.
  
  Now I see a bit more of the history, in your Mother's interactions with your daughter. Everything makes a lot more sense, now... and it is perfectly understandable that you are feeling protective. We say things in defense of the ones we love that we would never say in our own defense!
  
  Considering your parents are so up in years and rather steadfast, I don't know how much hope you have that any of your logic will sink in. But, at least it will have been said.
  
  In weighing whether or not to send it, I would question what good would come from it. Is it aggrevation/anger in her statements to your daughter which has prompted this the most? Fact is, I love the letter, and I wish the entire world could read it. But steadfast Dub's have such an amazing talent for shutting out the light. Reminds me of a Leonard Cohen lyric,
  
  "Ring the bells that still can ring
  Forget your perfect offering
  There is a crack, a crack in everything
  That's how the light gets in."
  
  Maybe, just maybe, the letter would crack the urn.
  
  Best of luck in whatever path you chose.
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  My Experience (become JW and DF)

  by windchime in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello guys!

  first let me tell you my life as jw.

  i was born in 1969 at northern side of japan and started bible study with my brother when i was 10. later my mother joined and baptized when i was high school student.

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  BabaYaga

  Hello, and welcome!
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  Having an angioplasty in the morning....

  by crazyblondeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i'll admit, nurse's are the worst patients ever, especially me!!

  went to the dr. for my test results this afternoon.

  they found a blood clot.

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  Hugs, Strength, and HEALING to you!!!
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  Hello everybody

  by iamfreenow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am marion, a friend of fullofdoubtnow (linda), and i have just disassociated from jehovahs witnesses.

  i was only announced a couple of days ago, after a lifetime of association.

  linda has posted about me before, but it's wonderful to be able to post in my own right, and i am really looking forward to getting to know you all.. i am 59 years of age, 60 in november, and have been a jw all my life, baptised since 1961, and i thought i would always be a witness, but i now know absolutely that it isn't the truth.

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  Welcome, welcome, welcome and CONGRATULATIONS on your STRENGTH!!!
  
  I'm a newbie here too, Marion, but I have now been out of the Org longer than I was in (and I was raised in it.) Thank heavens for this forum and all of the souls who make it, it is a great place to be and you will never be without a support group now!
  
  And believe me... it gets easier and easier. The only thing that never goes away is the concern for those beloveds still in.
  
  Strength be YOURS, Gal.
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  So, I have this kitten...

  by KennyC in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ...and she is cute as can be.

  we watched her grow and learn to play with new toys without freaking out over them.

  one toy is a little stuffed bulldog with a harley davidson black jacket and a bandana.

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  hahahahha YES! I remember when I first learned about this kitten surprise feature! I exclaimed, "I thought they were BORN with them, I didn't know they had to GROW there!" Actually, in kitty manuals, you will see that the description given is that female kittens have what looks like a "semi-colon" (you got it, a dot and a comma), and males have a "colon"... yes, that's right, folks... surprise, surprise.
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  Long time lurker says Hi!

  by Gilberto in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought it was time i posted here, having been lurking for over 4 years (on and off).

  well my wife is now out.

  we never really discussed the issues i had with the troof, although she of course new what some of them were.

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  BabaYaga

  Hello, and Welcome, from another Newbie!
  
  (pretty funny since you beat me to the punch by welcoming me first)
  
  I'm glad we're here! tee hee hee
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  Disassociation letter2

  by Suzie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so... i finally have thought about somethings that i want to say in my letter to disassociate... in my last topic starter regarding this, someone had meantioned disfellowship papers?

  why would they be sending disfellowshipment papers if i take myself out?.

  in the letter, i am thinking about making the one to my friends kinda short and sweet and to the point.

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  BabaYaga

  Thanks so much for the incredible welcome, all!
  
  Good luck and godspeed, Suzie. Like I said, it gets easier.
  
  I just read your first post on the disassociation letter and now know a little more history. May I say that, with your chosen Darlin' having such serious health issues right now, the very LAST thing you need to think about is the overly-controlling organization you are leaving. You don't need anymore stress, and thinking about this letter seems to be adding just that.
  
  Take care of yourself.
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  Disassociation letter2

  by Suzie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so... i finally have thought about somethings that i want to say in my letter to disassociate... in my last topic starter regarding this, someone had meantioned disfellowship papers?

  why would they be sending disfellowshipment papers if i take myself out?.

  in the letter, i am thinking about making the one to my friends kinda short and sweet and to the point.

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  Can I ask you something? Why are you writing the letter? When I stopped going to meetings, my Dad sternly admonished me that if I was not going to go to the meetings, then I should write a letter to the society. I refused. Somehow, that made him happy, though I never went to a meeting again. What I didn't say to him was that I wasn't playing the society's reindeer games AT ALL. If I felt they were not the right hand of (g)od, and therefore basically hogwash, why on earth would I bother fulfilling their wishes by writing them a letter? Are they all that, or NOT? Isn't that why you are leaving? Frankly, it has made my life much, much easier... my beloved family chose to think of me as "inactive", and thus still show thier love for me. I can understand if you feel you need closure, and if this is something you really want to do, but PLEASE, make sure this is coming from YOU. You yourself said this was what you were "advised". Of course they would advise you to do this, but why are you still giving them power? My advice is to think this through. If you write the letter, they have won. Strength to you. It gets easier. Hang in there.