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BabaYaga
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Hardships and Assemblies
by Sunspot ini just left a post on the "pa convention" thread concerning some of the hardships and difficulties that jws had to (or some here still have to?
) endure just to either get to a convention or what they go through after getting to the convention.. having to trot around from designated doors to the restrooms (rather than being ordered to use the door they told you to) no matter where your family was sitting..... or having you and your family have to climb way too many stairs on the last upper tier to find seats.....while plenty of empty seats remained on the ground floor that were never used that whole day?.
or the designated wts-regulation-sized cooler you had to lug into the stadium because you weren't allowed to leave the site to get a snack or a drink?.
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Hardships and Assemblies
by Sunspot ini just left a post on the "pa convention" thread concerning some of the hardships and difficulties that jws had to (or some here still have to?
) endure just to either get to a convention or what they go through after getting to the convention.. having to trot around from designated doors to the restrooms (rather than being ordered to use the door they told you to) no matter where your family was sitting..... or having you and your family have to climb way too many stairs on the last upper tier to find seats.....while plenty of empty seats remained on the ground floor that were never used that whole day?.
or the designated wts-regulation-sized cooler you had to lug into the stadium because you weren't allowed to leave the site to get a snack or a drink?.
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BabaYaga
Man, oh man!!! I'm laughing at these now, and so glad I have been away for long enough that I had forgotten... I had totally forgotten about the paper taped over the mirrors in the women's bathrooms! That was so incredibly bizarre!!!!!
How about ENDLESS FILTHY CONCRETE STADIUM STEPS IN HIGH HEELS? -
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The only time Jesus was truly angry...
by BabaYaga inseems to me the only time jesus got really miffed was in the temple.
i mean, we're talking ticked enough to toss tables, fer cry eye!!!
just because there was money changers in the temple?
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BabaYaga
hahahahha... great point, DChristopher! And one, indeed, I have not thought of in those terms before. My problem is that I still want my loved ones out of the car before it crashes into the wall, too...
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Just wanted to say Hello!
by RandomD ini am from the southeast usa, and i started going to the kh when i was about 14 years old.
i went pretty regularly until i was about 18, then i went to only sunday meetings.
i married my husband of 16 years, who was a baptized jw ( i wasn't).
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BabaYaga
Welcome RandomD!
You found this board, you're in good hands. Knowledge is power. -
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evolution or creation? lets talk...
by Sam87 inok, lets have a discussion about where we all came from, evolution or creation?
(or whatever you beleive in of course) every one put down there main reasons, along with reasonable facts and backup as to why.. .
hopefully this doesnt start to many arguments, lol.. .
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BabaYaga
Wow, Sam, well I spent many a year in the Dubs myself, and am now quite happy to report even MORE years OUT. Again, WELCOME, and we are so glad to have you here. Trust me, you will learn more on these boards in a week than you learned in 5 hour-long meetings a week for a year.
I do truly believe in both. I do believe in a higher power... (even when I used the name Jehovah for the One Within the All, I used to think of Him as the ultimate artist and scientist.) But you know what... I just don't know. And that is one of the most awesome things about being out... it feels so great to say I DON'T KNOW. Not "I don't know, but let me get back to you on that after I read a stack of nothing but WTBTS publications and speak with my elders."
Evolution is a scientific fact. We as humans have evolved astoundingly in the past 100 years (look at Victorian shoe sizes and average life spans, if nothing else.) The thought that a higher power might have created all this way is perfectly alright with me.
If, by creation, you mean, (and I believe you do,) the Adam and Eve story, well... having just recently learned tremendous tidbits on the history of the BIBLE ITSELF, I'm not one to mince words on this book which has been through so many translations and more importantly, transitions.
Fact is... my core beliefs at this point are much more bizarre. *grin* More along the lines of "we really might just be a convincing holodeck", and, of course, if we don't take the red pill, how are we to ever know? Plato's "cave" analogy. -
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evolution or creation? lets talk...
by Sam87 inok, lets have a discussion about where we all came from, evolution or creation?
(or whatever you beleive in of course) every one put down there main reasons, along with reasonable facts and backup as to why.. .
hopefully this doesnt start to many arguments, lol.. .
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BabaYaga
First of all, WELCOME Sam!!!
Secondly, I hope you're not a troll. There seems to be a plethera this eve.
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I QUIT !!!
by Frannie Banannie indid any of you do something really naughty and forbidden after you left the wts?
i waited almost 6 months, then realized i could smoke because there wasn't anyone to tell me what i can and can't do, so if i wanted to, i could smoke......so i did.
it wasn't long until i began to regret doing that.
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Awesome, Darlin'... YOU CAN DO IT.
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The only time Jesus was truly angry...
by BabaYaga inseems to me the only time jesus got really miffed was in the temple.
i mean, we're talking ticked enough to toss tables, fer cry eye!!!
just because there was money changers in the temple?
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BabaYaga
Excellent point, Star Moore, thanks... indeed, he doesn't say to shun them, does he?
And hasn't anyone here had a beer or two with a tax collector? Well? -
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Words and expressions a JW can't say
by JH inname few words or expressions a normal person can say, but not a jw.. when someone sneezes, you can't say bless ya !.
if you want to surprise a jw, you can't say boo !!!
http://www.prankcallsunlimited.com/pcu/booecho.mp3.
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BabaYaga
I once said, "Gosh" and my friend (I still love her dearly, by the way) told me that was an "unacceptable euphamism." I cracked up.
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Did u want to leave the org bcause u were doing something immoral?
by Will2Power in..and then sought to justify your leaving the organisation/religion by researching websites like this (to salve your conscience, justify continuing in your pleasurable but unscriptural lifestyle), or did you sincerely leave purely because you discovered certain false teachings, scandals, etc, while still living a moral, christian lifestyle?
be honest now, i mean really honest.
(this is not meant to offend anyone but viewed like a survey).
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BabaYaga
Absolutely not. I left because I knew that people were being wrongfully shunned, and I knew without doubt that Jehovah was NOT amused, and of course that meant that they did NOT have the spirit of Jehovah on their side, no matter HOW sincere they are.
The irony, of course, is that by realizing just how wrong and un-Christ-like shunning is, I was fully aware that I was bringing that same fate upon myself voluntarily. Loving org, that one.
I will say that is one of the interesting points in my conversations with my beloved inactive but stubbornly pro-JW family member. I tell him that I left because they were wrong, and he left so he could go be bad for a while. I think that is why he clings to them even though I can't foresee him ever living the life again... he needs to forgive himself before he can see fault with the WTBTS. It seems that in heaping ashes upon one's head, enough ash gets into one's eyes to blind... shall we say.