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drawcad_1
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A Big Canadian Apology
by jgnat ini got this as an e-mail joke today, my apologies if you have heard it already.... on behalf of canadians everywhere i'd like to offer an apology to the united states of america.
we haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, i am truly sorry.. i'm sorry we called george bush a moron.
he is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out.
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Do You Have Any Elder Fantasies???
by minimus insphere gave a comment on my thread about wanting to beat someone up and he/she said that they had elder fantasies.
do you have any elder fantasies that you would like to share?
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drawcad_1
Everytime I saw this one elder go to the front to give a talk. I would imagine him pulling his bottom lip up over his head and completely swallowing himself.
I always fantasized that an elder would see the hypocracy of the religion that they were trying to teach me, and that the answer “it will be revealed at a later date” was not good enough. Or, that if you could not answer my question then what the heck would a study accomplish.
I wished one Elder would be able to see that we were laughing at him while he was at the podium and not his lame jokes.
Just a few Elder fanatsies.
Blondie: There was one Elder that always had to go out of town to find any kind of work. He was very talented and there were plenty of good jobs in our area. But, he had to go where the "real money was". When he came back we would all hear how he was able to witness to his fellow employees, but he didn't bring back a big warchest of money. I always wondered what those trips were about.
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JH,
What was the temperature this morning?
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-1-03 WT Study
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 3/1/03 wt study
january 15, 2003 wt.
how strong is your faith?.
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Blondie
I love the reviews of the watchtower literature. It gives some good feedback to their constant drivel, and goes into some real good research. There are points that you have brought up (watchtower trinity, partial texts) that I probably would not have thought of. At least now I can go to the meetings and give an occasional smart*** answer to one of the questions, and then wait for my counsel.
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What Do You Think Is the Typical Attitude Of The Average JW Now?
by minimus indo you think that the average elder, ms, pioneer or publisher is different in attitude today?
would the witness of 10 or 20 years ago, have the same way of thinking as today's jw's?
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LB:
I think the average sister is sitting there looking at brothers around the hall and thinking "nice butt".
I think the average brother is sitting there looking at sisters around the hall and thinking "nice rack"
It Might be more like:
average sister "is this all I have to choose from"
average brother "is she legal, yet"
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What's with such young "elders"?
by Gig inhow can the wts consider an unmarried man in his mid-twenties qualified to be an elder?
clearly the "theocratic" process of election by the holy spirit is not what's happening.
ever known any (too) young elders?
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The young ones really do seem to try hard to do their best. They aren’t worn out, by waiting all of their life for Armageddon to come. At least they don’t try to counsel me on how to raise and discipline my children. They seem to realize that without that life experience behind them that they can’t judge others on it. I always hated the middle-aged elders that never had to raise children that would tell me to discipline my child more or that I wasn’t doing the right things to raise my children.
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What Should have happened to the Watchtower
by Dogpatch insome of you may be familiar with the international churches of christ , a breakoff cult from the churches of christ years ago.
control, control, control.
i myself have exit-counseled a few kids from this church successfully.
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I think that the recovery from 1975 was easily explained to the members that the Borg didn’t actually say that would be the year (or at least they didn’t print that). The faithful stayed on and continued to preach that it was very soon and have added to the gains that we have seen. The increase that was shown last year is kind of unbelievable to me, the local congregations have not shown any growth above the growth rate of the city (and it might be a little lower than that). A lot of the attitudes that I have seen is that people are getting tired of changing policies and bad publicity.
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Things That Drove You CRAZY About The Elders
by minimus ini was always amazed by the certain elders that really got into giving heavy counsel, while, they themselves, needed to take their own advice.you know, the elder that always picked on the families that weren't perfect, and was the first to volunteer to give the local needs talk on how to bring up your kids.
meanwhile, the elder's own children were smoking and dating "unbelievers".
and i always smirked when the theocratic ministry school overseer gave tough counsel on timing and the use of word-whiskers and pronunciation, while always violating his own criticisms............what drove you crazy??
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The elders always seemed to have something to say on how to raise children. Some of them had kids that no one could respect and some didn't even have any. They always whought that they were the last say on how to treat your wife, even if they were controlling and abusive in thier relationship. The ones that own businesses would cheat and steal, even to fellow witnesses.
One elder was very much into telling people how to run thier lives. He was a contractor of some sort and was currently between jobs, oh goody he could go pioneering while his wife worked. His father-in-law was a CO, so we know how he got his position. when he finally got a job it was driving a tour bus on the Strip in Las Vegas. Must be a real blow to his ego, being a big time contractor (if he realy had been).
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How bad is the Society hurting?
by dmouse init seems clear that the gb are hurting.
recent media attacks over pedophilia, combined with revelations of hypocrisy over the un and even personal accusations against members of the gb themselves has meant that those at the top of the ivory tower are feeling more vulnerable than ever before.
the law is increasingly being used to bring these monsters to book.. .
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acsot
that really brought a tear to my eye.
The watchtower is always telling us how they are being repressed in one country after another and yet they do the same to thier own members. Everytime I want to get into a serious discussion with one of the members, about discrepansies with thier beliefs, they go to the insight book and give me thier standard reply. Then I have to spend hours looking up data to reply to them, of course by this time I am labled as agrumentative.
this site has been very helpfull.
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Please explain 537 in layman's terms...
by confuzcious inhey guys,.
i'm doing research on 607 and i understand how historical chronology differs and how the wt really missed it by 20 years.. but it seems the anchor year has something to do with 537 and 70 years of desolation.
counting back, 70 years would be 607.. so i've been told that that is how the "bible's chronology" verifies 607.. does anyone explain what this is all about?.
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drawcad_1
There are many quotes in the wt about how there are references to the 607 bce date, but when qestioned cannot be prodused.
get them to explain zechariah 1:12 and explain what 70 years that he is talking about, and since it was written in 518 bce.
the true R&F will not be moved by your quest for the truth, but I am glad that you are looking into it.