OnTheWayOut

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  Disability Discontinued for Lifting Religious Pamphlets!

  by Atlantis in

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  disability discontinued for lifting suitcase of pamphlets!.

  https://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20191202/news08/912331976/disability-discontinued-for-man-caught-lifting-religious-pamphlets .

  petra!

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  OnTheWayOut

  That JW should be thrilled that Jehovah "cured" him and he can go back to work.
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  Why are the Jehovah's Witness Tennis players allowed to "serve two master"?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw broadcasting sept 2019 issue commentary.

  according to the jw in the sept 2019 episode, the ukrainian soccer player andriy nesmachniy (go to 1:04:14 in the video) "abandoned" his career for jehovah????

  he retired at 32 years old, the normal retirement age among soccer players.

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  I am pretty sure Venus and Serena never were baptized. Prince definitely was baptized, but he pretty much towed the line in front of the elders and only put on a show as a show business character. Oh, you and I could not do that, but he already had money to give, so of course they didn't say anything. And Venus and Serena have money to give, so of course they won't say anything about 'bad association' relating to them. It's really that simple. The JW's never had a special care for celebrities officially like the Scientologists have, but unofficially it's about the same way.
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  Unpopular Opinion on Convention Protests

  by Jehalapeno in

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  2. scandals

  i think it's really sad that people that wasted countless hours preaching for a cult are deciding to waste more hours on that same cult after leaving it.. get a hobby.

  enjoy life.. "the best revenge is a life well-lived.

  " - some person said this..

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  I have mixed feelings about protesting JW's at conventions or at the Memorial as someone named Rick F. does.

  For the most part, protesting is done to benefit the protesters. It gives them a sense of fighting back. It can have little effect on JW's, and in-my-opinion even feed their persecution complex.
  
  But most JW's that are not reached even the littlest bit or those that dig deeper into the womb of Mother Watchtower to deny anything protesters have to say- these people would not be reached anyway. In other words, maybe it doesn't work on the majority of JW's, but nothing really will work on those people.
  
  There are whole other groups of people in that crowd- children of JW's and visitors and weak JW's. I doubt that dressing up as Satan or trying to tell them that the Bible is full of lies would even reach too many of the doubters, visitors, and young ones. I think that a very strong attack on the Bible or a very strong message that Watchtower is not properly Christian won't really reach them. But telling them via signs or whatever that Watchtower is hiding the truth about child abuse can get their curiosity. Telling them that shunning is wrong can get their emotions. Maybe telling them that Watchtower has a plethora of failed prophecies will work on a few of them.
  
  But I just cannot imagine using all kinds of time similar to the time that JW's use to promote their ideas in order to hopefully reach a few people. I think that the internet and books are already available to those ready to find what's wrong with Watchtower. I think they will find "us." I would have a different view of protesting just 2 decades ago, but today- Go find a hobby. Enjoy your life.
  
  
  
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  Is a jw condemned for lack of belief.

  by Crazyguy2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if someone lacks belief is that somehow mean he’s done in their eyes and no way back?

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  To clarify, lack of belief in the Bible as gods word?
  

  
  If one has a crisis of faith that becomes known to the elders, they can still be a brother or sister in good standing if they don't violate the rules and they work on that lack-of-faith problem.
  
  If one flat out states that the Bible is not the Word of God, then it lends itself to their condemnation. You cannot believe in the organization if the organization believes in the Bible and you deny it.
  
  But even then, if you were willing to keep your problem to yourself, many elders would say "Work on that" or "Keep that to yourself."
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  Anyway coming back from my blunder?

  by Crazyguy2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my oldest boy got pissed that i started going back to meetings so i had one last conversation with him as he moved out.

  (only went back to try and not loose whole family) during the conversation things got a bit heated and i mentioned a couple of false prophecies in the bible the rest of family heard so now they think i don’t believe at all.

  guess their right think my going back was just a ruse, yes that’s true to.

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  I have to echo what Pete Zahut said.
  We don't know your whole situation, but don't seek a divorce based on any JW stuff. If your mate does that, its not on you. Only get divorced or move out or whatever you want to do because you actually want to do it, don't let the JW's decide for you.
  
  The best think I have ever heard from a forum like this one was where a disfellowshipped person was told they are not supposed to talk to the Witnesses, and they answered back, "NO, you are not supposed to talk to me. I can talk to anyone I please to talk to."
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  I am a Watchtower survivor

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i really like calling myself a watchtower survivor.

  it is not demeaning to other people and is not a negative statement.

  when a jdub sees that term it may make them think about why i would call myself a survivor.

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  "Watchtower Survivor." I like it.
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  Life Update 2019

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's been a while since i was anywhere close to being active here, or on any other ex-jw forum or facebook group.

  i rarely think about the religion and have little-to-no interest in it.. however, i do, very occasionally pop in here.

  hence this update, 3 years on since my last one - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5720228449222656/update-on-my-journey-8-years-after-end-watchtower-control.

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  Hey, that is a great update with a lot of positive thoughts and hopes in there. Thanks for sharing.
  
  I thought about my life and how I barely interact with them. My JW mother and my JW wife do not bring up any JW topics. I have no idea who the current elders are at the congregation my wife still attends and I was an elder at. I don't have anything to do with with JW's except for my mother and my in-laws, and occasionally my wife's best friend in the Caribbean.
  
  Recently, my wife said that a lady at the hall asked how her husband was doing. She said "Fine" or some other non-answer. When she relayed the story, I said "You should have told her about my promotion at work, how happy I am in that position, and that I was out of town with my best friend at an Elvis Costello concert at the time." Of course, my wife doesn't go into all that secular stuff. She honestly was just relating a query about me. And her short answer lets me know she tells the elders no more than those one or two word answers, too.
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  My first encounter

  by SB10 in

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  2. experiences

  i don’t know if the woman i met yesterday will ever see this.

  but i will forever remember that day for the rest of my life.

  my grandfather has been in icu for the past 3 days.

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  Sorry about your grandfather and strength to you as you deal with that.
  
  As far as thinking this was a sign from god to help you find comfort during this time, be careful. I don't know if she followed you or if she was good at reading people and there was some hint for her to offer that particular message and literature. But I fell for "God sent them to me." If God sent JW's to me, then I have nothing nice to say about God. It's a cult, they want to recruit you and cause you all kinds of new problems in your life.
  
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  The Latest From The Loony Left

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  so apparently, not only can people identify as men or women, regardless of reality, but they've now declared that people can identify as black or white as well!

  no word yet from rachel dolezal, who will no doubt be declared a visionary, and sadly michael jackson didn't live long enough to celebrate.. i must say, now that i am a black woman, my views on reparations have completely changed.

  y'all owe me some reparations bitches to make up for slavery yo.

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  There are things that people believe that go too far. But it's not limited to the left.
  There are people who believe that more guns will make everyone safer, that they should not listen to scientists but rather to businessmen and personal opinions of non-scientists about climate change, that Planned Parenthood kills babies and sells body parts, chemtrails are a government conspiracy to poison people, and some even accept that women cannot get pregnant from genuine rape.
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  The G.B. might as well be saying "Badges? We don't need no badges. We don't have to show you any stinking badges."

  Now substitute "proof with scriptures" instead of "badges."

  It was one of the easiest ways to not abandon any previous teachings yet, buying time for them to come up with som other whacky doctrine involving the flood or seven times or whatever.