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Asteroid + Dow Jones = You Know's Prophecy

by Amazing in

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okay you know: i am confused and need some wisdom.

see my secular humanist response below.edited by - amazing on 24 july 2002 19:44:40.

dubla

The big hedge funds and others institutions definitely do have the power to manipulate the markets, and they do it all the time.

well, if they have all the power to drive the market up and down as they please, wouldnt it be in their best interests to just shoot it all straight up? i mean, obviously the hedge funds can make money in a down market as well, because they short, but by and large if the money managers could completely dictate the market the way you imagine they can, then we would never have bear markets.

You sound like one of those dummies on MSNBC spouting gibberish& about "forming a bottom."LOL /You Know

well, as ive told you before, i dont watch msnbc, so i wouldnt really know what those "dummies" have been saying lately. i do pay a bit of attention to technical analysis though, and im sure im not the only one who does, (so im sure there are technical analysts on there)......like i said, its amazing how accurate it can be at times........especially this time.

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Asteroid + Dow Jones = You Know's Prophecy

by Amazing in

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okay you know: i am confused and need some wisdom.

see my secular humanist response below.edited by - amazing on 24 july 2002 19:44:40.

dubla

yk-

There are massive short positions that have been built up in recent weeks, but the bullish investors still have access to several trillion dollars of money market funds that are parked on the sidelines, as they say in the business. So, what happens is that the bulls with deep pockets dump a few billion dollars into the markets in order to spook the bears into covering their short positions, which means that they have to buy the stock that they had previous sold short by borrowing shares and selling them, which in turn drives up the share prices and the hope is that they can jump start some kind of rally before the whole thing simply collapses.

me thinks youve been reading a few too many conspiracy theories. short covering was no doubt a part of yesterdays rally, but to say that the money managers could manipulate the market so severely as to produce the second biggest dow gain in history, is simply nonsense. the last time we had a gain that big was back in 2000 during the bull market.......i suppose the money managers manipulated that gain as well? it wouldve been pretty tough, considering there werent near as many shorts out there in 2000.

there were many factors involved in yesterdays rally. number one, the volatility index was finally hit the highs we saw in september, and the oversold levels hit -17 to -20, again what we saw in september. the "get me out" attiditude has been more and more prevalent over the last month, and as i said before, this loss of confidence in the markets is how bottoms are formed. we finally got two straight weeks of bears > bulls....believe it or not, up till then there were still more bulls than bears (always a bearish sign). it is also worth noting that the '98 reaction low (ltcm) of 7539 held as a support level, and the market immediately soared when hitting this support yesterday (7533)....only 6 pts off! technical analysis can be almost amazing sometimes with its accuracy.

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Armageddon

by dubla in

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in february of 2019?

edited by - dubla on 24 july 2002 11:27:27.

dubla

according to the article, we just had a near miss.......of course god would never allow an asteroid to destroy the earth, so its pretty pointless to worry about such things.

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Armageddon

by dubla in

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in february of 2019?

edited by - dubla on 24 july 2002 11:27:27.

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in february of 2019?

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Edited by - dubla on 24 July 2002 11:27:27

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

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yk-

That's silly. I referred to Christ's command to put away the sword. Do I really have to cite chapter and verse? I referred to Christ's command to preach about him and his kingdom. Are you so illiterate that you cannot supply the verses for yourself?

more faulty logic, for the same reasons i used before. proving with only scripture that the wt is the one true religion is much different than quoting scriptures that can be shown to apply to jws. just because they seem to apply to jws, doesnt mean they cant apply to other religions as well. going back to the example ive been using, i know amish who preach their hearts out, and these same amish also "put away the sword"....these scriptures do not apply solely to jws, regardless of the fact that you desperately want to believe they do. (i also know christians that regularly preach about christ and his kingdom, who also refuse to take up the sword). when youve believed a lie as long as you have, its going to be pretty tough to ever break away from it.....so its completely understandable that you cling to it as tightly as you do.......many of us have at one point as well, so no one faults you for that.

as i said before, you simply cannot prove the jws have the one true religion by using only scripture. you have faith that they are, but this is much different than proving it. the amish have this same faith in their beliefs, etc, etc. in fact, the jws are now taking the stance that "this happens in all religions" when it comes to child abuse.......so even the wt is breaking away from the "we are different than the rest" mentality.

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

dubla

yk claims to be able to back up all of his beliefs using ONLY the bible, but when push comes to shove, it is simply not possible.

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GETTING INTERESTING REAL SOON NOW

by You Know in

i don't have a clue how a computer works.

i just turn it on and point and click and i am able to do what i need to do, unless of course something goes wrong, or in the worst case scenario if my little machine experiences the dreaded blue-screen crash, then i am really in a mess.

that is the way the financial system is for most people.

dubla

yk-

If you can prove me to be factually wrong in any statement I have made, as I just did Crazy Drunk, I will surely acknowledge my error. / You Know

i proved you to be completely factually wrong in this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=29888&page=8&site=3

direct your attention to my last post (well, second to last technically), and the red print about 3/4 of the way down.....youll see where you specifically stated "That's not what you said. But, never mind that lie.", and i subsequently posted for you (including link) the precise moment when i said the very thing you accused me of lying about. to this day you have yet to "acknowledge [your] error", or your lie, whichever you prefer.

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

dubla

sim-

OK, so you "think" that they ar the real deal. Again, I have no problem with that, since that becomes your OPINION and is not based on anything other than your own perceptions of things. Many other organizations outside of the JW would and do say the same thing.
The question posed however, was for biblical proof that they are, and not your "thinking" on the matter.

you are, as im sure you realize, asking for the impossible. yk claims to be able to back up all of his beliefs using ONLY the bible, but when push comes to shove, it is simply not possible. yk knows this, which is why he attempts to blow his smokescreen of reasonings over the issue at hand, which is namely that there is no evidence whatsoever in the bible that the wt has anything to do with gods spiritual organization.

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The Meaning of Names....?

by SpiceItUp in

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there are some that are obvious and then others that just baffle me to no end..... yes i am talking about your user names.... do any of you have stories behind them or are they significant for some reason or are they just a word you made up?.

mine...well its easy.... i got the nickname of spicy back in nov of last year when i dyed my hair this crazy red color and the name of the color was "spiced ginger".

the rest of it is because i love to make things more interesting---- sorta of like adding a bit of spice to the stew (hopefully i come across as that as well .

dubla

plm-

i think this is the one youre looking for.........

>>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=19417&site=3

titled, "okay fess up: whats your handle mean?" (5 pgs. long)

i was wondering what that one was too, so i scoured my previous post list.

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Edited by - dubla on 18 July 2002 16:14:47

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Helping Newbies Understand YOU KNOW

by JT in

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for those of you who may not be aware of who bobby is better know as "you know".

allow me to share some things about this man that may help to shed some light on his mindset as a jw.. one of the most important things i have found when dealing with "loyal" jw on the net is to find out thier status with in the org, esp if they are male- .

you see this organization is a "position" driven organization, esp for males and if they have no position within thier local congo - other than mike handler after being a jw for years then that means in most cases the male jw is considered a flunky- we have seen guys as young as 17 being appointed as ms-.

dubla

11th hour-

ive noticed youve been defending yk, which is entirely within your own rights of opinion. you made a statement here though, that interests me:

So have compassion, and love like Christ admonished us,,, Love, instead of ridicule...

you either: A) are completely ignoring the constant ridicule that yk injects into his posts, or B) havent been on the forum long enough to know just how much ridicule yk spews, instead of the love you speak of. if you are simply unfamiliar with yks repeated ridicule, and youd like a list of links to these examples, let me know and id be happy to comprise a quick one. welcome to the board btw.

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Edited by - dubla on 18 July 2002 13:5:18