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  Check out Watchtowers homepage!

  by jerome in

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  http://www.watchtower.org .

  do you notice anything pecular?

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  dungbeetle

  It depends on the purpose of it being up there. The timing sucks, for one thing.

  If the purpose of printing these articles, and of placing them on the webpage, is to 'prove' to the world that this is the way Jehovah's Witnesses are, then it is blatant hypocrisy.

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  On the other hand notice this quote: "Some 4,000 years ago, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were famous for depravity. Pedophilia was apparently among the region's many vices. Genesis 19:4 describes a sex-crazed mob of Sodomites ranging "from boy to old man" seeking to rape Lot's two male guests.<

  Consider: Why would mere boys be inflamed with the idea of raping males? Clearly they had already been introduced to homosexual perversions.<

  This is a blatant and flagrant lie. Watchtower has been taking a lot of flak for this, and to put this up on a public webpage at this time is no less than inflammatory.

  The Bible says no such thing. This doctrine that 'this is what the Bible says' has long ago been proved to not be properly translated into English (and Watchtower made it even worse by translating from the incorrect English into incorrect languages to boot.)
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  And did you notice this quote:

  >Some legal experts advise reporting the abuse to the authorities as soon as possible. In some lands the legal system may require this. But in other places the legal system may offer little hope of successful prosecution.<

  This is the ONLY reference to reporting abusers to authorities. Is there some reason this is totally BURIED in part of a paragraph on this whole webpage? And why 'some legal experts'? Is there ANY legal expert that would NOT advise (or want) abusers reported to authorities? Is the Watchtower trying to say by default that medical authorities DON'T want abusers reported? Or that SOCIETY doesn't want them reported to authorities?
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  Thsoe articles are extrememely outdated, do not meet the needs of Society and children today, don't begin to adequately protect children, they contain material that is misleading and inflammatroy and should never have been placed on this website at this time.

  And if you want support, notice how you have to DIG to get the dates of these articles? Why is that?

  Why is the WATCHTOWER dealing with pedophilia in the Watchtower publishing company not up on its website?

  I'll tell you why. Even the WATCHTOWER realizes how inflammatory and bad publicity THAT article is.

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  JW Spiritual Paradise? Bwahha (Children)

  by dungbeetle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtower diss**t apologists like psych get on here and spout off dumb stuff like this religion isn't god's channel because it has the truth (or not,?

  )but because of love among themselves.

  love among themselves?.

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  dungbeetle

  9 murdered JW children made the point I wanted to make...this is not the true religion based on 'love among each other'.

  That's the only point I tried to make, and I think I made it. As I said in the post "no matter how badly I skew my figures.."it bodes very badly for the Watchtower.

  I personally would like to see Watchtower deal publicly with this atrocious issue, that's not going to happen Ashi and Path if we just keep doing what we have been doing.

  And suggestions?

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  I give up...

  by MrMoe in

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  2. friends

  i give up... well amost.... simply lost my perky sparkle.

  4. got a new job (oh this was the only good thing last year).

  20. mom has more surgery.

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  dungbeetle

  (((((((((((Moe and Emily )))))))))))))
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  The Numbers - Psychdigg

  by Amazing in

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  2. friends

  psychdigg: your post below complains about bill bownen using fake numbers and false predictions.

  you then only discuss some generalized numbers in an unspecific way.. law of large numbers: in case you are not familiar with this concept, it is used in science and engineering.

  it is most often applied in the insurance and market research industries.

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  dungbeetle

  ((( Amazing )))

  Although Psyc appears to be going going gone-- under that name anyway.

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  "Jehovah's Witness School"

  by Jacinta in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted my experience on this board and took for granted that some may have never heard of the jw school.

  i don't know if they exist in every state (apparently not), but the one i went to is named new world education center.

  all of the teachers had to be baptized jws and the principal as well.

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  dungbeetle

  That's a lot of history Jacinta, thank you. I learn something new every day.
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  Press Conference in KY

  by myself in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i will not make it in time for the press conference in ky, or the candlelight vigil.

  it will be impossible for me to get off in time from work.

  i am going to drive up that evening.

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  dungbeetle

  No, he's not answering my emails...I'm guessing the week or so before he'll put up a "On the road to Draffenville" thread or some such thing, and put up all that info.

  Like he did for Ritzville.

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  Abaddon & Guest 77

  by U.2.K. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i figure why bother to answer your questions, if you do not believe in everything the bible saids, so i leave you with this statement from the bible that jehovah has given his children: .

  take ye heed, and watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

  / the last days are here, seek righteous & keep thy truth, you all have heard, cause the end cometh soon- a-men'.

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  dungbeetle

  I didn't mean for you to leave the board....I meant the two or three of you who want to discuss your..stuff..take that particular discussion over to a quieter board, and bring the discussion back when everyone is feeling better.

  Probably next month.

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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  dungbeetle

  If you thinking me is sounding like a raving maniac, CYG, and that help keep one fragile and endangered child from becoming another murder statistic, then so be it.

  A thousand people can think me a 'raving lunatic' if that will help.

  "Liars can figure...but figures don't lie."
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  Abaddon & Guest 77

  by U.2.K. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i figure why bother to answer your questions, if you do not believe in everything the bible saids, so i leave you with this statement from the bible that jehovah has given his children: .

  take ye heed, and watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

  / the last days are here, seek righteous & keep thy truth, you all have heard, cause the end cometh soon- a-men'.

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  dungbeetle

  Self-righteous, pompous, holier-than-thou, God-is-on-my-side-only, Bible thumping IDIOTS like YOU need to pray for YOURSELVES.

  Suggestion: if you're getting a lot of flack from the group, consider carrying on your discussions through email or over to another board where emotions aren't running so high right now.

  Some of the members here are going through some tough crises right now--IN CASE YOU'RE BLIND IN ONE EYE AND CAN'T SEE OUT OF THE OTHER-and emotions are running high right now.

  DORK!!!

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  Press Conference in KY

  by myself in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i will not make it in time for the press conference in ky, or the candlelight vigil.

  it will be impossible for me to get off in time from work.

  i am going to drive up that evening.

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  dungbeetle

  If I know Bill, he's already organized a big huge breakfast/brunch for Friday morning AND Saturday morning.

  HeeHee

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