interesting report from the recent elder's school.
thought you all might find it interesting.
here's a link:.
thanks a big bunch...
just 2 comments:
1) At last, the real reason the Watchtower wants JW's off the internet--it isn't what they READ---it's what they might SAY!!!!
2)>" Some elders have been noticed ridiculing the direction of the FDS"< Now why on earth would they do that, do you think!!!
toodles, and good night!!
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g'day bible students, .
this is something i raised a while back and recieved little responce.
i have long contended that the "most high" of exodus 4 is non other that jethro the "most high priest of midian".
I agree with Aguest, that Jethro was Moses' 'Lord' in both ways; as a leader of his people with whom Moses took refuge as the Egyptians had a warrant out for him (Moses)and also as his father-in-law.
In spite of the fact that Jethro was a distant relative of Moses, and a descendant of Abraham, it nowhere says that jethro was a worshipper of the true God. In fact. later, when Moses was reunited with Aaron and Miriam, they complained that Moses had come back with a 'foreign' wife. (it is inferred here that they are discussing Zipporah, but the account seems obscure on the point to me.)Not to mention that, even though it appears that Zipporah set out with Moses and their children to return to Egypt, there was some kind of big falling out, with Zipporah chopping off her child's (only one of the two) foreskin and throwing it at the feet of SOMEBODY and making (twice)the 'bridegroom of blood' statement.
Just as it was recently brought out that although Abraham took his aged father with him when he set out from Ur to go a'wanderin', nowhere does it state that Abraham's father worshipped the true God.
It also doesn't state anywhere that Noah's wife, daughters and son-in-law worshipped Jehovah. Nor Lot's wife and daughters. And on and on.
Family, even 'unbelieving' family, is a lot more important to Jehovah than the Watchtower would have you believe.
You see why I like the Bible so much. These dysfunctional Biblical characters make ME feel NORMAL!!!
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i'm new to this forum, and have been lurking for awhile enjoying your posts.
thought i would share my own exp as so much of what is being said here rings true.. i'm an air force brat, currently in my thirties, that left the jw's when i was 25. it all started in albuquerque, nm when my mom accepted a study with a jw woman there.
she continued to study when we transferred to an air base in panama city, fl.
(((( jaysong ))))Welcome to our 'home away from home' (for some of us anyway).
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i have a interesting story, and i can't believe other jw's cannot open their eyes to the destruction that this organization can perform on a family.
i was raised as jehovah witness, all of my younger pictures would show white knuckled clutching a pink book called paradise lost, paradise regained.
i couldn't read yet, but the beautiful illustrated and colourful pictures drew me to it being my favorite book.
((((( CanadianExJw )))) Welcome to the board, and hope to see more of your postings.
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my first name is mirian.
i was born in the bronx, ny in 1963. my parents are natives of puerto rico.
my siblings and i were raised as witnesses.
((((BQE)))) Welcome to the board!!!!! It's a roller coaster in here, but everyone manages to have some fun at times. Hope you do the same.
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anyone who has done any amount of internet searching re jws knows that local congs are constantly appearing before local governments asking for zoning variances for consruction of new khs.. typically, such excerpts are not post worthy, but this apears to be an exception.. imo, this article demonstrates how jws/wts arrogantly expect authorities to kowtow to their every desire by bending and breaking rules and laws, while they maintain an attitude that noone better even think about abridging their legal rights, or they will sue their ass:.
thou shall not build house of worship plan postponed.
by: prescott tolk.
>"The building would serve two separate Jehovah's Witness congregations that have recently sold their First Kingdoms in the surrounding area."<
Two kingdom halls are being replaced by one? More 'simplification'? How long has this been going on 'quietly'.
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i have a large collection of books, some fairly rare.
what are you guys collecting out there?
anything bizzarre?.
I collect board and tabletop games....I have almost every Lord of the Rings game ever made. (Not the new movie stuff tho)
I also collect Heroquest, and some other rpg board and tabletop games.
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i am curious.
does anyone really believe the dateline show will make very many current dubs "wake up" and leave?
do you think it will bring the organization down?
It isn't the Jehovah's Witnesses I am hoping to see it...it's all those bible studies and householders viewers I want to hear about. It's far far better to catch them before they fall in the well than spend all the resources trying to get them out when they do.
We may never know the results of all our hard work. We may never know about all the people who were studying and then stopped becuae of informed family and friends, or internet research.
Sometimes each other will have to be enough.
Toodles
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i've read several posts lately that define what exactly can or can't get someone in trouble with the jw's and i'm a little confused.
how does the 2 witnesses to a sin thing work?
let me explain why i'm asking.. about 7 years ago a friend of jon's that he has known as a child contacted him via telephone.
((((((kevin))))))
Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult, dear....A CULT. Many years ago, they set themselves up as God's 'true organization' and God promptly abandoned them to every kind of badness there is under the sun.
To be more specific, tho; there are scriptures that state not to convict a person of something except at the mouths of two witnesses to 'a matter'. They have interpreted that to be witnesses to two separate ACTS in the cases of child molestation, but for every other matter that rule is very relaxed. Two witnesses to HEARSAY is good enough for everything else such as your friend.
How is she doing now, by the way?
And how are YOU doing..
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hi all, thought it was about time i started posting as i have been lurking for so long.
Well I, for one, am glad this thread came bttt, so I could---
WELCOME you to the board.
(((((Simon and Mrs. Simon)))))
I mean---Angharad!!!!!
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