Posts by dungbeetle

if he was a JW, I can beleive he would have a schizophrenic around the house. JW's have this ridicluous attitude that if they 'pray, study, go out in service' God will take care of everything and keep them safe. Remeber, therepists are from the 'devil'.

Just like the JW who rode the bus AT NIGHT ina very violent part of town.

Especially since Watchtower loves to hush up these cases so much, so JW's don't know the dangers and can't eductae themselves INSIDE or OUTSIDE the organization.

UNIFORMITY...baahhh

Good topic guys, hugs to you.

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We did not knew it was a crime...

by Nowhere in

"dr. betheajackson:.

i don't think, 18 or 20 years ago, we knew much of anything about .

pedophiles.

dungbeetle

Or maybe it was okay for several thousand years to rape your own child, but not okay to rape somebody elses.

"You can't have mine, go git yer own"...

sheesh

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We did not knew it was a crime...

by Nowhere in

"dr. betheajackson:.

i don't think, 18 or 20 years ago, we knew much of anything about .

pedophiles.

dungbeetle

Well, it looks like this doctor whats-her-name is trying to say that they didn't realize 20 years ago that peophiles were obsessed and would reoffend over and over until they were physically stopped. That what it looks like to me she's trying to say. That information wasn't available, according to her. I guess they thought all child abuse was 'situational' .

I was looking for something that says the opposite, what did Freud have to say? That was a long time ago, that would DEFINITELY put the lie to things.

I was just remembering movies about teh 1800's and the early 1900's in America. When someone was accussed of hurting a child, they would try and kill the perpetrator, lynch them sometimes? I'm sure becasue of teh enormity of teh crime, but could it be that even these simple folk all those years ago were awar of the recidivism of these kinds of people?

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We did not knew it was a crime...

by Nowhere in

"dr. betheajackson:.

i don't think, 18 or 20 years ago, we knew much of anything about .

pedophiles.

dungbeetle

I did find out one thing...pedophilia was in teh DSM-IV, the original one. And the interesting thing is, pedophilia was diagsnosed as a mental disorder, , and this is important...

SOLELY WITH THE PRESENCE OF FANTASIES, DREAMS, AND THINKING.

Even back then...(I'm guessing 1970's or so?) there was an anwareness of 'SOMETHING WRONG'.

It even apparently alluded to father/daughter incest as a 'situational' abuse and not necessarily pedophilia.

I can't comment on clinical value of that but just to point out tha they knew SOMETHING even back then.

It also mentions PEDERASTY which IS in my 1957 Dictionary. It says that this refers to men having a spicific type of sexual relationship with young boys, whereas teh DSM-IV states that pederasty refers to men having sex with pre-adolescent boys.

I have no access to a DSM-IV, does anybody else?

"Come Back, Come Back, Lady Lee Lady Lee."

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We did not knew it was a crime...

by Nowhere in

"dr. betheajackson:.

i don't think, 18 or 20 years ago, we knew much of anything about .

pedophiles.

dungbeetle

unfortunately I can't even find 'pedophile' in any of my dictionaries. Does anybody know the history of pedophilia; or I should say the history of teh investigation and documention of pedophilia?

Let me guess...Freud didn't mention it. FIGURES.

A littel more in depth than naked baby boy angels please!!!

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Why did Satan get to live so long?

by larc in

jw
friends

now this question about satan and his longevity, is a farkel type question.

farkel, if you have covered this before, then i hope i did not plagerize.

well, anyway, we have this spirit creature who turns against god.

dungbeetle

My theory is this:

There was God. He had a son, named Michael. Michael then went on to have a whole big bunch of sons, millions of them in fact, and also went on to create human children.

Now, one of Michael's children, Lucifer, and many of his brothers took issue with Michael his father (and indirectly his grandfather God) and decided since he couldn't take on his father and grandfather, he started playing with the humans and manged to lead them off the favored path. As a result, the first two humans created by Michael then 'died' . Not that death was unfamiliar to the angels, they had been watching animals and plants live and die for who knows how long.

Now there had been a legal principle involved here, that if Adam and Eve went off the beaten path they would die. They went on to have children, they died too. That was their sentence for disobedience.

And Lucifer? Death also.

Michael had sentenced the human pair to death, but he did not kill them. The first passive euthanasia if you will. They died on their own. It is to be assumed that Lucifer someday will do the same. In any case, neither God nor Michael have any desire to kill Lucifer and his brothers, and so they let them live out their natural life span, passive euthanasia again.

One cannot blame someone for not wanting to directly kill their own child/grandchild. Maybe Lucifer was given a choice, slow death or fast death and the slow way was his choice. In any case, like the humans and animals, Lucifer and his unfaithful brothers age the same way as humans, growing gradually weaker and feebler as the reach the end of their life span.

My support for this reasoning? The fact that the world is a better place today than ever before. The two world wars that occurred in the world was a last act of dying creatures, expending what was left of their energy to try and take out the world with them when they departed.

It may also be the reason jesus waited so long before coming to earth. Thousands of years had gone by, and Lucifer's followers all are old and weak and were not able to kill the baby Jesus. A few thousand years previous, the war between the two factions of heavenly siblings to protect/kill the fragile human child might have ripped apart the planet. By waiting untill Lucifer had weakened, whatever fight Satan put up over the baby went unnoticed by all but those in the near vicinity.

Even a mere 30 years later, Satan could not directly take up issue with Jesus. He had to try and bribe and bully Jesus into diverting from his path, he couyld not begin to muster up enough force to try and 'take' the human.

The promise of God and his Son Jesus, is that in return for all the damage the rampaging dying Lucifer was doing, humans the offspring of Adam and Eve would be restored everything they had lost, including their lives and teh pristine planet and everything else.

one has to wonder why God/Michael could not wall earth off from Lucifer and his rampaging dying army. Could not or would not.

For this I have no answer.

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We did not knew it was a crime...

by Nowhere in

"dr. betheajackson:.

i don't think, 18 or 20 years ago, we knew much of anything about .

pedophiles.

dungbeetle

Lady Lee put up some references that absolutely puts the lie to this person's words.

Lady Lee, where are you?

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District Conv. Releases?

by NeonMadman in

i've seen several rumors and advance mention of the convention releases for 2002, but if there was a post that laid it out clearly, i must have overlooked it (not hard to do, given the speed with which threads get buried around here).

can someone give me the exact details?

are there 2 books or only one?

dungbeetle

Yes please.