Posts by Rebirth

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Not talking about JW stuff has the opposite effect - regression phase

by truthseeker in

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i decided to take the advice of some of you here when i wrote about my situation.. i am married, but my wife is a die hard witness.

despite me showing her mountains of evidence and her actually accepting it, she is regressing back into jw think.. this has happened since i stopped mentioning anything anti-jw.. now she thinks that my problems with jw's were just a phase because i am not bringing up the issue anymore.. i really want to leave this religion, but i can't do that without losing her.. many here i know are trapped and some are still serving as elders.

i don't know how you do it, but i guess routine is routine.

Rebirth

Hi truthseeker, I'm sorry for what you are going through. I disagree w/the posters who said that a person who doesn't leave after being presented with the facts is "dumb." My husband is extremely intelligent and has been presented with very convincing elements but yeah know what? When it comes to the control of family, there is no measure. My psych has helped me to understand the power of family over decisions, he sees it all the time and it can never be underestimated. I also find that my husband says that he is weak but believes Jehovah is cleansing the organization and that the scriptures that talk about people engaging in the works of the flesh, well that is applied to the congregation. My point is that there will always be some way to justify not leaving. I've given up and just hope that as our girls grow he will let them do what they choose to do and I will be here to present all the options to them.

You've gotta take care of yourself and if you find that your partner is no longer respecting your right to believe as you wish, it is time to get out. That is my line in the sand, if he tries to control what I believe or teach to the girls, our marriage is over.

Good luck!

Rebirth

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How do you help your kids if they are surrounded by dubs?

by wanderlustguy in

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i got into it with my ex the other day about my kids and them being around their dub relatives.

they live with her and i know she needs help from her relatives, but i see it doing bad things.

one in particular is the inability to determine their own preferences, they say what they think the people they are with want them to say.

Rebirth

I'm sorry you are going through this, I deal w/these feelings on a daily basis w/my little ones. I would try to show them how great life can be out there. The more they are exposed to the beauties of your earth and its people, the more they will see that what the W says is a bunch of lies. Get involved in a charity you love and your children can participate in. Seek out friendships w/families that have similar ages as your children. Do you go to any sort of religious service? I bring the girls to a Unitarian Universalist church. It is the church I found that teaches acceptance of all religions and encourages free-thinking. Many of my college professors go there if that gives you any idea. The girls are learning to embrace tolerance to counteract the hate they learn at the KH. Also, celebrate big with them. Make a big deal of their birthdays and holidays. Show them how fun life can be when embracing all there is to enjoy.

Good luck!

Rebirth

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Please contribute. Children in divided homes.....

by jambon1 in

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..............i am specifically refering to those raised in the truth by both parents and then one parent leaves.

firstly, any experiences of those who went through this would be appreciated.. mainly, i am just wondering what is the best way to influence your children against the jw mindset.

it is a concern to me that my children grow up believing some of the doctrines of the wts.

Rebirth

Bryan, Would you elaborate on how you would have been more pro active? What did (or didn't) you do that regret.

Thanks from a non-believing mate of two little ones.

REbirtth

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Did You Overly Discipline Your Kids Because Of Being A Witness?

by minimus in

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i knew a lot of jws that "beat" their child with the "rod" as a preferred "scriptural" form of punishment.

corporal punishment was the norm while growing up......were you given the "rod" often?

did you overly discipline your children??

Rebirth

(((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))) Reading these posts has made me break down crying like a baby; I look at my little girls (who can be impish at times) and try to imagine what could drive me to ever take my adult force and beat them. My heart aches, just aches at the thought. My dad and mom both beat me, pinched me, slapped me, kicked me, etc. and I vowed I would never do that to my girls. I have swatted their behinds and their hands when they were toddlers, but never full force and never w/anger.

One of the reasons I left the KH was because an elder suggested I use a weapon on my 18 month old, just like he did with his boys when they were young, "and look at wonderful they turned out." I got up from the table (it was a shepherding call) and told them I had things to do. I knew if I didn't get up at that moment I actually might take the weapon and use it on his f**ing ass.

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How many JWs die for want of a blood transfusion?

by Gill in

does anyone have a rough or even accurate idea of how many jws lose their lives each year due to the no blood doctrine?.

Rebirth

About a year ago I suggested a memorial page set up in memory of all those lost due to Watchtower policy. I would be willing to donate money in the names of those who lost their lives due to the Watchtower's dangerous policies such as blood, organ failure, and most deadliest: suicide. I would be willing to donate such money to organizations that are working to get the word out there about the dangers of cults and specifically JWs.

Rebirth

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would you all consider this a serious threat????

by annalice in

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let me start by saying that i have posted here before about my wacko sister -in-law.

this time it is bad.

we recieved a phone call from my husbands father on friday night asking about how we were and what we were up to ,no biggie just odd since its only maybe the second time in over a year that he has called.

Rebirth

Go straight to the police, do not pass go (the elders). Absolutely no question. You NEED to go to the police with this.

26

Do Not Buy RCA Products

by jayhawk1 in

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warning!

never buy rca products if you know what is good for you.

i had a dvd/vcr combo recorder that i bought brand new in april 2006. in november 2006 it died on me.

Rebirth

I'm sorry you got a bad CS rep. However, this isn't a matter of whether they feel like replacing it or not. You need to call and get the name of the CS manager and then send a certifed letter w/a copy of the UPS receipt and let them know that you expect either a new DVR, your fixed one back, or your money back (depending on your warranty) within the next 30 days. Let them know that if you don't receive it, you will be contacting the states' attorney general and lodging a complaint in both the state you are from and the state the center is located.

You'll get your money back or a new one, I promise, just make sure to keep copies of everything you send, and follow-up.

Good luck!

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So what'd you get? Loot reports here...

by frozen one in

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i got a couple of lumps of coal and a 2 for 1 mcdonald's dollar menu coupon.

warm and fed...a christmas miracle!!

!

Rebirth

I gave a lot of gifts to my friends and clients. I got nothing back, but honestly, it really doesn't bother me. I enjoyed giving and seeing their pleasure. I got two secret santa gifts (a Christmas ornament and a box of gourmet popcorn) and a beautiful little book from an angel here on JWD. I also gave myself a jade bracelet. Wrapped it up and put it under the tree as a gift from Santa.

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Can we start a Secret Santa Recieved/Sent Thread?

by restrangled in

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i'm worried because i sent a christmas card plus had a gift sent by ups over the internet about 7 days ago and haven't heard anything.

i would feel really feel bad if my person didin't receive their gift or card.

so i think we need to have an official post place.

Rebirth

Thank you Mariposa! Loved the handmade Christmas ornament. I put it under the tree along w/Santa's gifts and the girls (4 &6) thought it was so cool that Santa would send me a ornament to commemorate our first Christmas.

Sure hope my SS receipient liked their gift. :-)

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Feeling very depressed

by lostlantern in

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it has been awhile since my last post, my husband and i have been very busy.

we are both back in college, very exciting and life is moving in a positive direction.

it is break between semesters and i have time to slow down and think.

Rebirth

lostlantern, I could have written your post, except my husband is still in and supports the shunning that has taken place. I'm so sorry you are going through this. I too tried to avoid the subject of religion so as not to cause conflict. Ya know, they can go years w/o talking about the "truth" w/you on the phone while you obediently attend the meetings and then suddenly you aren't at meetings and your lack of interest in talking about the subject becomes this big sign that you are out. Give me a break! I also got the "so are you going to divorce your husband now?" Yes mom and I'm going to start sacraficing babies to the gods. Give me a break. Take your head out of a Watchtower and think for yourself for one moment. She even admited that I've become less judgmental over the last two years. Gee, could that have anything to do with the fact that I stopped attending meetings 2 1/2 yrs ago??

I'm so glad to hear that you and your husband are in college! That is awesome and shows that you have your head on straight. Maybe your family will see your life getting better and have an epiphany, that's what I keep my fingers crossed for anyways. In the meantime, I'm sending my best thoughts to you and lots of comforting love.