:Nun 'yo beezwax, Yankee!:
Well, I think you graduated cum gradibus quam minimis. That means: "with the lowest possible GPA."
hahahahahahaha
Duns the Scot
"Nobody is taller than himself or herself."
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Hi Steph,
Did you graduate:
a) magno cum levamento
b) stimulo parentali
c) cum gradibus quam minimis
d) interventu divino
e) in stupore
f) in oculo porci
org) in alto stercore?
Thanks,
DanPS I take Steph's comments cum grano salis.
Pope Scot
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Dunsscot - More on Russell as FDS
by Amazing indunsscot - more on russell as fds .
duns: alanf provided excellent source references to demonstrate that charles taze russell (ctr) was considered the exclusive faithful and wise servant (aka: faithful and discreet slave[fds]).
after reading the historical material he cited and quoted, i found this more recent additional confirmation:.
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I posted this information on another thread.
AF has contended that Russell thought he was the FDS of Matthew 24:45-47. I have yet to see any evidence that Russell claimed to be the "slave." Even some of his opposers have admitted as much. AF has not shown one quote from Russell that proves he thought he was the FDS. But here is one quote that removes all doubt. I will try to post more as I get the chance. From The Time is at Hand - (1889) Volume II-Study V, pp. 163-165:
"Who, then [in the "harvest"], is a faithful and wise servant, whom his Master shall make* ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed that servant whom his Master on coming [erchomai--when he arrives] shall find so doing. Verily, I say unto you, he shall make him ruler over all his goods"--all the vast storehouse of precious truth shall be opened to such **faithful servants**, to arm and supply and feed the entire household of faith.
But if the servant's heart is not right, he will say, My Master tarries [has not arrived], and may smite [oppose and contradict] his fellow servants [those who differ with him;
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*Sinaitic and Vatican MSS read "shall make."::page 164::
those, therefore, who are declaring the opposite--My Lord does not tarry, but has come, is present]. Such may eat and drink with the intemperate [become intoxicated with the spirit of the world], but the Master of that servant will come [Greek, heko--will have arrived] in a day not expected, and in an hour in which that servant is not aware, and will cut him off [from being one of the servants privileged to hand meat in due season to the household], and will appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. [Though not a hypocrite but a genuine servant, he must, because unfaithful and overcharged, have his portion with the hypocrites in the perplexity and trouble coming upon Babylon.] "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
The foregoing, carefully examined, clearly teaches us that in the end of this age there will be ONE CLASS denying that the Lord is present (not denying that he will come sometime, but that he has come), and smiting or harshly opposing those fellow servants who must therefore be teaching the opposite--that the Lord has come. Which is the faithful, truthful servant, and which the one in error, is clearly stated by our Lord. The faithful one whom he finds giving seasonable "meat" will be exalted and given fuller stewardship over the storehouse of truth, with increased ability to bring it forth to the household, while the unfaithful one will be gradually separated and drawn into closer and closer sympathy with the mere professors or hypocrites. And note the fact that the unfaithful is thus cut off, or separated, at a time of which he is not aware--in the harvest time--while his Lord is really present unknown to him, searching for and gathering his jewels. `Matt. 13:30`; `Psa. 50:5`; `Mal. 3:17`; `Matt. 24:31`
We particularize here, merely to show that, in answer to the question of the disciples about signs and evidences of his second presence, our Lord taught that neither the world nor::page 165::
the unfaithful servants would be aware of it, until the intense fire of trouble is at least commenced. And the faithful evidently will see him present merely by the eye of faith-- through the Scriptures written aforetime for their learning, to be apprehended as they become due.
Duns the Scot
"Nobody is taller than himself or herself."
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Infinitism
by dunsscot inskeptics of the world, unite!.
as i slowly and deliberately nursed a nonalcoholic cup of coca-cola tonight, something motivated me to pull out my notes on infinitism and share them with you good folks here.
infinitism is a philosophical school of thought that advocates the epistemological "suspension of judgment.
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:Nope. Cyclothymic Disorder. Get a disability pension for it and all...:
You have my sympathies. Roma locuta, causa finita.
Pope Scot
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From The Witness Zone
by Stephanus inhttp://jwzone.dhs.org/ubb/forum8/html/000019.html .
have you ever witnessed to a telemarketer?.
one day this sister i got rained out.
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Steph,
I do not mind legitimate criticisms. But this one is simply unfair.
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Have you ever witnessed to a telemarketer?
I have. One day this sister I got rained out. So, we went home. As I was preparing for BKS for the following day, the phone rung and this gal was looking for my parents. Since they weren't home, she told me what she wanted. It was on healthcare. After she got done talking, I mentioned what promises that Jehovah and Jesus have for us mankind with no need for healthcare insurance. By the end of the conversation, she gave me her snail mail addy, so I can send her the Greatest Man Book.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------:Well, isn't that just peachy-dandy! There's no need for health insurance because Jehovah and Jesus have already paid the premiums on the Paradise Earth.:
Maybe the problem stems from a failure to understand the sister's words. But I can assure you that she was not saying JWs do not need health insurance now. Plenty of us JWs have health insurance. She is talking about the Paradise earth. In the future, we will not need insurance. Got it?
Duns the Scot
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Russell as "That Servant"; Re: Dunsscot
by AlanF insince dunsscot claims he's leaving this board, and in answer to my specific request for a committment to answer all replies i might give to his latest replies to my previous dissections of his nonsense he said that he would not, i won't be giving a detailed reply to him.. however, dunsscot's posts contain a number of statements that prove how easily the watchtower society fools the jw community by lying to it, either outright or in so many words.. in this post we will examine a fiction that the society has managed to get poor people like dunsscot to believe with respect to c. t. russell, namely, that russell never claimed that he was "the faithful and wise servant" of matthew 24:45. the simple truth is that russell did indeed believe it.
the fact that he did was printed in the watch tower, and the society itself taught it until about 1927.. let's first look at the context of dunsscot's denial of this important bible student teaching.
in the set of exchanges below, the reader can see that dunsscot is attempting to deny that jw leaders claim to be god's exclusive earthy spokesmen.
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AF has contended that Russell thought he was the FDS of Matthew 24:45-47. I have yet to see any evidence that Russell claimed to be the "slave." Even some of his opposers have admitted as much. AF has not shown one quote from Russell that proves he thought he was the FDS. But here is one quote that removes all doubt. I will try to post more as I get the chance. From The Time is at Hand - (1889) Volume II-Study V, pp. 163-165:
"Who, then [in the "harvest"], is a faithful and wise servant, whom his Master shall make* ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed that servant whom his Master on coming [erchomai--when he arrives] shall find so doing. Verily, I say unto you, he shall make him ruler over all his goods"--all the vast storehouse of precious truth shall be opened to such **faithful servants**, to arm and supply and feed the entire household of faith.
But if the servant's heart is not right, he will say, My Master tarries [has not arrived], and may smite [oppose and contradict] his fellow servants [those who differ with him;
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*Sinaitic and Vatican MSS read "shall make."::page 164::
those, therefore, who are declaring the opposite--My Lord does not tarry, but has come, is present]. Such may eat and drink with the intemperate [become intoxicated with the spirit of the world], but the Master of that servant will come [Greek, heko--will have arrived] in a day not expected, and in an hour in which that servant is not aware, and will cut him off [from being one of the servants privileged to hand meat in due season to the household], and will appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. [Though not a hypocrite but a genuine servant, he must, because unfaithful and overcharged, have his portion with the hypocrites in the perplexity and trouble coming upon Babylon.] "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
The foregoing, carefully examined, clearly teaches us that in the end of this age there will be ONE CLASS denying that the Lord is present (not denying that he will come sometime, but that he has come), and smiting or harshly opposing those fellow servants who must therefore be teaching the opposite--that the Lord has come. Which is the faithful, truthful servant, and which the one in error, is clearly stated by our Lord. The faithful one whom he finds giving seasonable "meat" will be exalted and given fuller stewardship over the storehouse of truth, with increased ability to bring it forth to the household, while the unfaithful one will be gradually separated and drawn into closer and closer sympathy with the mere professors or hypocrites. And note the fact that the unfaithful is thus cut off, or separated, at a time of which he is not aware--in the harvest time--while his Lord is really present unknown to him, searching for and gathering his jewels. `Matt. 13:30`; `Psa. 50:5`; `Mal. 3:17`; `Matt. 24:31`
We particularize here, merely to show that, in answer to the question of the disciples about signs and evidences of his second presence, our Lord taught that neither the world nor::page 165::
the unfaithful servants would be aware of it, until the intense fire of trouble is at least commenced. And the faithful evidently will see him present merely by the eye of faith-- through the Scriptures written aforetime for their learning, to be apprehended as they become due.Duns the Scot
"Nobody is taller than himself or herself."
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Infinitism
by dunsscot inskeptics of the world, unite!.
as i slowly and deliberately nursed a nonalcoholic cup of coca-cola tonight, something motivated me to pull out my notes on infinitism and share them with you good folks here.
infinitism is a philosophical school of thought that advocates the epistemological "suspension of judgment.
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:Beg pardon, m'Lud! (tugs forelock) Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of that revelation? This false religionist has been a little slack in keeping up with his Papal Bulls, I'm afraid...:
I will do ye one better, me wishup, I will speak ex cathedra at this very moment, 'kay.
Pope Scotus wanted to leave this DB last Friday, but a certain AF detained him with his ultra long submissions. On top of that, AF questioned me ability to speak Church La'tin. The Pope then had to respond to those weeeaked charges. So his Majesty will be leavin' any day now as he finishes his business here. Stay tuned for further papal declarations.
Dan
PS Are you suffering from narcissistic personality disorder?
Duns the Scot
"Nobody is taller than himself or herself."
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Simple questions for my buddy Duns.
by seven006 induns/dan, i have followed the posts where you and alan have gone at each other debating the interpretation of old watchtower articles and the correct definitions of latin terms.
it's about as much fun as watching women's underwear drying on a clothes line.
since alan is a good friend of mine and my statements saying that i do like you are genuine i thought i might be in a position to ask you a couple of questions that hopefully give all us standing in the bleachers watching the game a little better insight on exactly where you are coming from.
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Dave:
:These questions are presented in a hypothetical manner only. I only wish to try and get a better understanding of where you as a person are coming from.
Here they are.
1. If you told the CO of your circuit that you were regularly participating on a DB that is positively known to be dominated by disfellowshipped apostates what do you think he would
tell you to do and would you care about what he said?:I am sure he would encourage me to stop participating on this board. That is something that I plan to do anyway. But if I was told to stay away from these type of boards, I would carefully consider what the brother had to say and weigh it in the light of Scripture.
:2. If your answer to question #1 is "I have no idea" would that be because of not knowing your CO on a personal basis or not knowing what his position is on the societies stated wishes on the matter?:
I'll go on to the next question.
:3. If your CO told you to stop posting here would you follow his wishes and stop posting?:
Personally, I think one's decision to participate on a forum of this nature is a decision each individual must make. An elder could tell me not to participate on sites like this one all day. But I am old enough to apply Bible principles to ethical situations in my own life. As I said earlier, I would evaluate the brother's counsel (as I have always been wont to do) and apply his words, if I deemed it appropriate.
:4. If your answer is you see no need to tell him why would that be?:
I do not see any need to tell the CO what I am doing online. He is not a master over my faith. I have talked with some local elders about my activity in the past, however, and I have been told it was a conscience matter. Some do not mind the participation, but others do. I think that Christians should reach out to all sorts of humans though. Part of one's shepherding work may be coming to boards of this nature. It also gives me an opportunity to defend the faith and keeps me sharp academically.
:5. Do you believe that a CO is put in his position within the JW society by god's will to act as a true shepherd of his organization?:
I have to cite a passage from the Bible here. Acts 20:28 indicates that at least SOME overseers are appointed by the holy spirit of YHWH to shepherd the congregation of God. There is no suggestion that all overseers are appointed by God. What is more, COs and DOs are not infallible. They can err in conduct, speech, and thought. I listen to them as they "speak the word" of God.
:6. If he told you to stop posting would you continue and would you consider it a sin in the eyes of god and his earthly organization the Watchtower Society?:
First, I think that I must make the decision to continue posting or not posting here. Secondly, I make a mental distinction between God's demands and those of men. Therefore, I do not think of everything in terms of sin and righteousness per se. Some acts are either wise or unwise. I will explain below.
:7. If you would not consider it a sin please explain why you feel that way.:
I really do not want to expand on this point at length now. Let me just say that our understanding of what is doctrinally correct is ultimately provisional. We must be careful when we start dictating what God views as sin when it is not expressly stated in His Word.
:8. Do you consider the societies stand on its members not coming to sites like this a good one or do you feel it should be left up to the individual JW to make his or her own decision?:
I am not sure I can answer this question with a yes or no. I think the Society wisely admonishes us to avoid certain places on the web such as this forum. But it is up to the individual, I believe, to apply the counsel we receive. But one must remember that whatever he or she is sowing, he will also reap. Its not easy to come to a place daily, where people continually try to tear down your faith in God and JWs. I certainly would never recommend this place to my fellow brothers and sisters. Before I started posting and simply read the material here, I felt depressed everytime I came to this site. I now feel better that I get to voice my side. But its still not easy some days. But I do not have long to continue posting here.
Take care!
Bud DanDuns the Scot
"Nobody is taller than himself or herself."
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Russell as "That Servant"; Re: Dunsscot
by AlanF insince dunsscot claims he's leaving this board, and in answer to my specific request for a committment to answer all replies i might give to his latest replies to my previous dissections of his nonsense he said that he would not, i won't be giving a detailed reply to him.. however, dunsscot's posts contain a number of statements that prove how easily the watchtower society fools the jw community by lying to it, either outright or in so many words.. in this post we will examine a fiction that the society has managed to get poor people like dunsscot to believe with respect to c. t. russell, namely, that russell never claimed that he was "the faithful and wise servant" of matthew 24:45. the simple truth is that russell did indeed believe it.
the fact that he did was printed in the watch tower, and the society itself taught it until about 1927.. let's first look at the context of dunsscot's denial of this important bible student teaching.
in the set of exchanges below, the reader can see that dunsscot is attempting to deny that jw leaders claim to be god's exclusive earthy spokesmen.
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Mi homo!
Inimici mei fidem superare volunt. Sed contra Deus eos superavit. Interea dum tempus venit, tolerabiliter patiar. Hominibus viam Dei docebo et Te Deum laudabo. Ubi veritas, Deus ibi est. Veritatem autem facientes in caritate, superabimus.
Te valere jubeo!
DanoPS I always hated composition class!
Duns the Scot
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Russell as "That Servant"; Re: Dunsscot
by AlanF insince dunsscot claims he's leaving this board, and in answer to my specific request for a committment to answer all replies i might give to his latest replies to my previous dissections of his nonsense he said that he would not, i won't be giving a detailed reply to him.. however, dunsscot's posts contain a number of statements that prove how easily the watchtower society fools the jw community by lying to it, either outright or in so many words.. in this post we will examine a fiction that the society has managed to get poor people like dunsscot to believe with respect to c. t. russell, namely, that russell never claimed that he was "the faithful and wise servant" of matthew 24:45. the simple truth is that russell did indeed believe it.
the fact that he did was printed in the watch tower, and the society itself taught it until about 1927.. let's first look at the context of dunsscot's denial of this important bible student teaching.
in the set of exchanges below, the reader can see that dunsscot is attempting to deny that jw leaders claim to be god's exclusive earthy spokesmen.
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Dear Dave,
How are you doing, buddy? Now that I have made my point about Q.E.D., I will try and ease up on AF regarding this matter. I just wanted to make it clear that this formula is a medieval construction (as numerous sources show) and was not employed in the Classical period sans the gerundive. But then, I am now going back on my promise. I quit for now. Thanks for the reminders. :-)
Take care!
Duns the Scot
"Nobody is taller than himself or herself."