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  Does the bible talk about UFO's?

  by JH in

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  some say that there are verses in the bible that points to the fact that ufo's visited the earth?.

  have you ever heard about this?.

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  awol

  Weird.... this is what my mum and I were talking about today!!!! She has read the book you ref'd to and loved it!
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  Kingdom Melodies and Hidden Messages

  by inbyathread in

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  there has been talk about wt imagery and the use of subtle hypnotism during meetings.. we had a co who very forcefully wanted the piano players axed and the canned music used for the singing.. has there been any studies done to find sub-harmonic messages hidden in the music?.

  paranoia and conspiracy artists may now address.

  thanks.

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  awol

  Sorry to do this but I'm sure (cos we used to giggle bout it) that We're Jehovah's Witnesses was SONG 69!!! Ha ha ha..... well they like to talk about sex all the time!

  There's another one which made me and my mum smirk.... something about "vigor and vim" . In the UK they are cleaning products .... don't ask us why it just made us laugh everytime.

  Our piano player was good but the piano was well out of tune! It was really funny. When they decided to use the tapes they would always go wrong! Oh I am pmsl now!

  .... how about "ours is the god of true prophecyeeeeeee , what he fortells comes to beeeeeeeeeee"
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  After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

  by awol in

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  i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

  never df'd.

  could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

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  awol

  Just wanted to thank you all for your replies. You have all helped me.

  Been thinking over the last week. I actually feel so much better now. Happier. I cried a lot last week.

  It was such a shock to come on this site and read. I am really glad I did. Things do seem so much clearer. I don't feel guilty anymore. I'm thinking more about god and what kind of a being he is.

  A mad thing happened two days ago. My son was crying in the morning (he is 11). I cuddled him and asked him what the problem was. He said he was really worried about all the starving people and the wars!!! He is very sensitive, and does NOT come on here and doesn't know I do. I have only told my mum. There is NO way he would have an idea of what I am going through as I haven't even talked to my partner about it. He was not brought up as a witness... we left when he was 1. It was like he got all the hurt I was feeling and felt it!!!! We then had a long talk about things. I talked to him so differently than I would of a couple of weeks ago!

  How amazing kids are! they surely are sent to help us out and be our freinds!! We are kind of helping each other out now.

  Thanks again xx
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  After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

  by awol in

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  i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

  never df'd.

  could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

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  awol

  My kids are lucky.... they have been bought up with no faith. I am leaving it up to them to "work it out". Maybe they will help me as they grow older.

  I say they are lucky because like a page that hasn't been written on. Where as I feel like someone just got an erasure out and you can still see what was on the page. Now I have to write on the page again. But I can still see what was on there.

  you have all helped me so much already xxxx
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  After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

  by awol in

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  i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

  never df'd.

  could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

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  awol

  Onthewayout

  Thanx, yes I think you get what I'm saying.

  All in all though, I passed worrying about getting back in. I DID until I came across this site still think a bit like the JWs. But I DIDN'T realise this til the other day (when I came on here). That's what I mean. I may of well of fallen out yesterday not 10yrs ago.

  I KNEW (exJW thinking) that A was coming and I was dying .... soon. I would even of taken the brochure they are giving out and cried and worried myself sick.

  But NOW I can see it all for what it is!!!

  I tell you I can't sleep! I feel like crying all the time .... perhaps give it time and I will come to terms!

  Thanx everyone.... least I got you! xx
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  After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

  by awol in

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  i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

  never df'd.

  could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

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  awol

  And my friends and family will be like "well wot do you believe in if you don't believe in the bible!" I will shrug and say I don't know.... and they will then go on to ask about the world and where it is going.... blah blah blah. I want to be able to say: I BELIVE X,YAND Z now because .....? You kind of want to give a reason. They were happy with me being "ex Jw fallen away.... committed fornication and will die at armageddon taking her children and partner with her" label!

  F**k them!
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  After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

  by awol in

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  i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

  never df'd.

  could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

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  awol

  So, basically live life to the full, be as good a person as you possibly can and be happy with what you have etc. I am like this anyway. What I mean is while a JW you believe. Then you leave. The reasons I left are as stated - couldn't live up to what was expected of me .... can anyone!!! NO WAY. I then came across this forum. Now, finding out about a lot of things on here has been like walking into a brick wall. Do you know what I mean? I'm merrily on my way in life and thinking "okay, Im ex JW.... happy life etc etc .... will die at the end of the system of things but hey, I would of died trying anyway" The wham! this information all comes my way and now I have NO reason to believe the bible or god! Do you understand? At least I was an ex JW with the belief that I was just crap at doing it.... and I proved that by leaving. NOW I am me, on my own.... what is gonna happen then?!!! If the end is not immenent then this build up I feel (maybe cos I was still looking) is now gone! I feel it becoming clearer the more I look into the issues written here..... but wot now. Was looking for anyone who "gets" what I am feeling. Its like waking up after a really real dream and then realising it was not real, or watching an amazing film you can't get out of your head....... maybe I'm screwed!!!
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  After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

  by awol in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

  never df'd.

  could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

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  awol

  I left JWs 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted. Never df'd. Could never go back as I personally found it too hard to live up to. Some friends of mine who are in it have the mind set "We do what we can and if we can't then don't worry" in other words, if you feel like NOT answering, studying, service, if you feel like getting pissed, having sex before marrage.... don't worry. Well, to me, what was the point? If you're gonna do this then do it right. If you're gonna get pointed at for being one... then do what you should be doing. I thought they were supposed to be different from EVERY other religion. I would worry if I was thinking the wrong thing I was sinning BIG time. If I swore, I thought that would be it!! To top it all, I was made to feel inadequate and I couldn't cope.

  Enough of that.... I came on here about a week ago, by chance. And I have read and read. Although I had left 10 yrs ago, I think I had NOT left in my head. For example, I think I kind of accepted I would die at the big A and it was my fault because I was shit at being a JW.

  Now, I cannot even sleep. Because, I am convinced they are just another cult / religion. That's fine. I am HAPPY to not be associated with them. BUT, I can't work out what to believe now. I don't want another religion and I'm not going looking for one. I just wonder if anyone has/is been like me. I feel like I haven't got a clue now.

  Do you just switch off thinking about it? I can't. The world is a messed up place, and I worry about the fact that although we, my family are okay, there are millions sufferring around the world. Why? So what is the point....... Now this is where the witnesses would have a field day with me isn't it!!!!! grrrrr see where I'm at?
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  Jw out in full force with tract on September 30/06 (tomorrow)

  by headmath in

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  2. beliefs

  here is a grand opportunity to give the jw that knock on your door some apostate literature.

  of course we wouldn't want to hand them hate literature - they won't read it.

  they might read the wts own literature though.

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  awol

  My mum just sent a text saying my sister has a tract to give her - but not til the 12th.

  Was talking to my JW friend at the time, I read the text out to her.... acting like "what's that then?"..... she said "She is not supposed to talk about it or give it out til 12th...." So I asked what it was about then. She said "It's all about the end of false religion and that it is gonna happen soon".... I said "Oh, what AGAIN!" She then said "don't, have you seen the news". She also is gonna give me a copy tommorrow when I pop over.... even though I'm not supposed to. She said I'll get a copy from a witness on 12th any way.... Well, they NEVER knock here (only couple times in 3 yrs). I didn't get the one inviting me to the assembly either. Btw... even tho im a faded JW they don't know me in this area as I have moved here in recent yrs, so theyre not avoiding me due to ex JW status.

  She said she will talk to me tommorrow about the tract!!! Great!
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  question for Atheists with children?

  by unbeliever in

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  what do you tell your children about god or his lack of existance?

  i know i have a long time before i have to deal with this but my jw mom did ask me what i will teach my son about god.

  i have no plans to tell him god is real.

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  awol

  My kids use their heads and reason it out with me. My daughter doesn't have any particular interest in religion at all. I leave her to use her own brain and thoughts.

  My son, however, who is 11, believes in God and Jesus. He prays to God. He likes to talk to me about God, Jesus, Creation, evolution, Satan. He has NOT been brought up in any religion (was 1 when I left JWs). He is just interested. I let him tell me his thoughts and I tell him it is up to him to research and find out what he believes in.

  I don't know what I believe in myself. Having a nightmare at the moment really. If all that they taught me is NOT true (JWs). Then what is. Thing is there has to be some purpose. Doesn't there? What I worry about most, is about all the bad things that are going on right now. I avoid the news as it depresses me. I don't get it all. No wonder they just focus you on all this and then say the end is nigh!!!! Good way to blot out "thinking" about it all isn't it!