Posts by StillGroggy

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"They don't even know what they believe!" -- JW

by AlmostAtheist in

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a jw once said (more than once, probably) in regards to members of other faiths, "they don't even know what they believe!

" i know that's a legitimate quote from a real jw because i'm the one that said it.

i often found that the people i met in field service would claim to be a catholic or a methodist or whatever, but wouldn't have a clue about the beliefs of their church.

StillGroggy

AlmostAtheist,

I've been thinking about this sort of thing alot lately. I agree with you that JWs are an arrogant bunch, although i partially believe some of what the wanderer says about it.

I DO think that the environment created by the WTs teachings IS one of arrogance, despite the fact that they say it is out of love. How many times do you hear JWs refer to non-JWs as "Some Worldy guy" They basically use it as a racial slur! I've always felt that JWs regard non-JWs as a lower class of human being.

Look in the revelation book, in the upcoming weeks there is a picture of an angel killing wicked "worldly" people. The worldy people are portrayed as a bunch of violent animals. My wife won't share a cup with the "worldly" people at work because she sees them as a promiscuous, diseased bunch!

Although many JWs claim they have "empathy" for worldly people, when was the last time most of them gave any money to a charity other than the WT? From what I've seen, MOST DONT.

However, There are some people in the JWs who ABSOLUTELY LOVE looking down on non-JWs. They gain a self-satisfaction, it makes them feel like they are part of an elite. Many elders and pioneers take on this persona. I believe this has to do with their personality, and if they belonged to any other cult, they would be the SAME WAY.

- SG

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Does A School Yard Bully Attitude Take Over This Discussion Board?

by The wanderer in

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does a school yard bully attitude take over this discussion board?growing up, i can recall such times when a rival would want to pick a fight .

with me and when we met, he would bring along two of his friends and i .

sometimes, i would knock their block off and sometimes, it was the other.

StillGroggy

The wanderer is a troll.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

How is he trolling. He's probably the most respectful person on any internet forum EVER. If HE's a troll, than we all are too. That's just silly...

- SG

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Recommendations About Leaving The Truth

by The wanderer in

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recommendations about leaving the truth leaving the organization regardless of the circumstances can be difficult.

so much is interwoven besides leaving a religion or philosophy behind.

recently, i had the good fortune of bringing my best friend out of the .

StillGroggy

By example

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Beautiful Atheist Video

by Kudra in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdvucvo-kdu&nr=1 .

i love watching this video.

(i can't make the link active in firefox...)

StillGroggy

Wow, great dosage of reality. This is why I pray to atheos every morning.

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Did Peter Predict the Emergence of the WT?

by Perry in

2pe 2:1 - show contextbut there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.

they will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

it seems like i remember a few months ago that ak-jeff or maybe someone else alluded to an article from the last few years that definitelty stated that christ did not die for the great crowd.

StillGroggy

Amen Funkyderek. JW is small potatoes, especially when you consider that JW has 8 mill and scientology 10. JW is barely a blip on the radar.

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What Double Standards Exist With Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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to be a "good jehovah's witness" you must be able to live by double standards.

you have to know how to play both sides to the middle.

you have to speak and act one way with certain persons and another way with the others.. one example of how witnesses live by double standards:you cannot join the ymca because jws can't involve themselves with religious matters or else be shunned.

StillGroggy

Blueblades, that always bothered me. We go through ALL this trouble to GET people to reconsider THEIR religion, but we cannot check on our own, or even accept another religion's literature at the door.

YOU, be open minded but I'll stand here on your doorstep with a closed one.

It doesn't make ANY sense.

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Any current Good Standing JW, posting here?

by NotaNess in

i was wondering if there are any current regular posters here that are still active , but are mentally inactive and don't believe all the bull anymore, and are just going through the motions to keep their life with friends and family together.. i realize this might be a posting that will probably get 0 replies, but.......

StillGroggy

me

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"You'll never even get to finish school in this System of Things....."

by WingCommander in

this statement was often echeod to me during my formative years.

i remember my very first day of elementary school (stateside) at the age of 4. my parents were flustered because they couldn't believe they actually had to start their only child into public school to begin with; after all, the end was right around the corner!

this was 1984, the year the first apple mac was introduced, 80's music was loud and in your face, the delorean was cool, and miami vice was just in production.

StillGroggy

Wow. Thank you for that WingCommander, as a JW that came in around the time when they were loosening the restriction on college, I never really felt the full effect of the anti-college stuff. I still told my guidance counselors I wasn't interested in universities and went to a technical school like other good dubs.

But I ended up in community college anyway. I really get pissed off when I read stuff like yours. WTF was the society thinking?

It's funny, you'll still hear stuff like this from JWs though. Since now the society is using the "It's right at hand", we have no proof it's any closer, but its still right at hand!!! I heard my wife talk about never having to pay off the house fully because of the end of the system. I told her "Lets not count on that, lets count on having to..."

-SG

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Logos

by Schism in

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i have figured out why i never log on anymore.

once i come in here and start chatting, i become addicted and can't get off.

i end up spending 3 days straight in here and never getting anything done in my real life!!.

StillGroggy

Get a designer to do it. If you want to save money, call up your local college and get a design student to create one for cheap. Don't do it on your own, it will suck. no offense

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How many here have actually read the bible............all of it?????

by vitty in

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i was in the org for 20 years and never actually read the bible from beginning to end.

then i bought a living bible and found even the most difficult parts easy to read.

but i still couldnt find time.

StillGroggy

Who's got the time? Gotta study for the 18 meetings this week!!!

-SG