i think it's really about understanding...whether you question the morality of it. it's not like stealing, killing, or raping ... this is not something that is harmful to society in that way. if you think it's wrong then you're judging... and i find judgementality morally wrong since it's harmful to others.
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Born Gay?
by Sam87 inhi everyone, just wondering what your thoughts are on people that say they are born gay?
ive heard that this isnt actually possible, and that there is no scientific backing to it, im personaly not gay but i was just wondering what some of you think on this matter, and if you have anything to back it up with, thanks,.
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GoOdy NiGht!
by TheKings ini don't know if that's the universal jw term for potluck nights or if all congregations have them but all the ones i went to had a potluck night at the book studies once a month.
does anybody have any good stories related to these occasions?
tonight my family is going to a potluck night and as usual they asked me to make something for it.
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TheKings
i don't know if that's the universal jw term for potluck nights or if all congregations have them but all the ones i went to had a potluck night at the book studies once a month.
does anybody have any good stories related to these occasions?
tonight my family is going to a potluck night and as usual they asked me to make something for it. i made pies with butternut squash which is just like a pumpkin pie :) last time it was blueberry cheesecake. i haven't been to a meeting in a year since the memorial that my mom asked me to go to, but i still make something for them to take if they ask. i like cooking for people even if i don't agree with the WTS.
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Born Gay?
by Sam87 inhi everyone, just wondering what your thoughts are on people that say they are born gay?
ive heard that this isnt actually possible, and that there is no scientific backing to it, im personaly not gay but i was just wondering what some of you think on this matter, and if you have anything to back it up with, thanks,.
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TheKings
question:
would it make being gay wrong in any case?
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The 'Hand Over Your Kids And Money' Watchtower
by metatron inonce again, it's november in the us.
the leaves are changing, there's morning frost - and , of course, it's that time again.
to remind publishers to hand over their money to the watchtower, inc. , especially before they die ( in this system of things,.
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TheKings
!!!
i remember when they started to encourage people to ask for donations at the door after introducing the watchtower and awake magazines in the KM's (kingdom miseries).
i thought it was so wrong. :p
and now full page articles devoted to making you want to give up your life's possesions to them.
yucky.
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On the fence (first post)
by nonamegiven inwell, i stumbled onto this site and decided, after reading a bit to post.. who am i?
i am "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses" as they say now, they no longer use the word "disfellowshipped" in the announcments now.
why am i df'd?
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TheKings
BTW
welcome
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On the fence (first post)
by nonamegiven inwell, i stumbled onto this site and decided, after reading a bit to post.. who am i?
i am "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses" as they say now, they no longer use the word "disfellowshipped" in the announcments now.
why am i df'd?
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TheKings
something i heard in a public talk is: there is no fence. either you believe it or you don't.
you can not be a true jehovah's witness and doubt any of their teachings (there are some who would disagree with that i'm sure, but that is the nature of the organization.). you need to be true to yourself if you're going to worship god without feeling bad about how you're doing it.
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Jehovah in NWT
by becca1 ini've seen mentioned here that the nwt 's use of the name jehovah is incorrect or overused.
can anyone tell me more about this and show proof?
thanks.
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TheKings
http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/Jehovah.htm
^ that's just about everything you need to know.
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Born Gay?
by Sam87 inhi everyone, just wondering what your thoughts are on people that say they are born gay?
ive heard that this isnt actually possible, and that there is no scientific backing to it, im personaly not gay but i was just wondering what some of you think on this matter, and if you have anything to back it up with, thanks,.
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TheKings
are we born gay? i dunno...are we born 'straight'? ...it depends on whether our sexuality is hardwired or whether we learn to be gay or straight.
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Personality of "Anointed" JWs
by Smiles indid you notice any similarities in the personalities of "anointed" jws?.
did they use their anointed status for personal advantage?.
were they the most loving person you ever met?.
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TheKings
That was horrible. She had a fat lip because of it. She complained to my dad, and he told her that in the future she could either hold the mike steady or sit closer to the aisle.
to make someone else hold the mike for you while you elaborate ad infinitum is really arrogant..your dad got it right though ;)
i only knew one annointed person. she was very kind and quiet... very old. she sat in on my study once, but i hardly remember anything she said. she was quite a wallflower, however, she did have a sagely air about her... a quiet pride that you could see in her eyes. though i did not know her very well i think she did think herself to be particularly 'wise' and gave advice to anyone who asked, especially about demons.
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Personality of "Anointed" JWs
by Smiles indid you notice any similarities in the personalities of "anointed" jws?.
did they use their anointed status for personal advantage?.
were they the most loving person you ever met?.
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TheKings
My mother after her divorce and hitting the menopause declared herself annointed, which was the same time I quick-stepped out of the religion (at the age of 15/16) - it was kind of the last straw! I went back in 4 years later though. Nothing seemed to go right for me when I left initially and I was young and thought it was god punishing me. I finally left 4 years later and my head is clear and I put anyone off religion as it is the 'opium of the masses'. Karl Marx is right! And, I have never looked back. I am now married with a gorgeous son who is celebrating his 2nd birthday next month - still can't think what to get him. Maybe a trampeline...
Anyway, you'll know my mother when you go to Mutley Congregation in Plymouth Devon UK, she is the one wearing an Easter Bonnet on her head on memorial night. When I returned for a while I sat next to her once. She came in like she was royalty and even though the elder conducting the memorial did the prayer for the bread and then the wine - she did her own. She gulped the wine down and did a burp and took the biggest bite out of the unleavened bread and I could hear her crunching it through the rest of the meeting! Afterwards, she sat on her own at the front of the meeting and only one of the congregation's simpletons and a lost child spoke to her - she told me later that they would be blessed and the rest will have to answer to Jesus as they are supporting his chosen one, and showed me in scripture the bit about the apostles not being there for Jesus on his last night. Anyway, I made it art form to not sit next to her again. Everyone thinks that she is a loon and although she's my mother, I have to agree with them. She doesn't even live in Devon, she lives in Cornwall and gets the train back and forth from the meeting. No one has ever cared about the fact that she doesn't get home to midnight or offer to give her lift - but she alienates people by talking at them and not with them, and generally being odd. She doesn't go to her local meeting as the elders are against her (she is actually correct there).
Although I am DA'd she still talks to me occassionally because she says it wasn't announced so I am not technically. But when I do have the 'joy' of conversation with her, she rants on about her success with the Chinese immigrants and asks me when I am going to return to my father. I explain that he up'd and left some years ago and hasn't kept contact and she says no your true father. I know what she's getting at and what ever logical reasoning I give back to her, it falls on wasted ears. She displays all the symptoms of depression and if you dare try to bring this to her attention she will say that I am Satan trying to destroy her because she is a chosen one. She thinks the the CIA, MI5, FBI, George Bush, Tony Blair (the lot) are bugging her and as she is god's chosen one and when I recently tried to explain that JWs aren't that big a religion and if any bugging is going on it is on suspected Muslim Fundamentalists she tells me that she knew I would say that because they have told me to say this and everybody is against her - because she is (wait for it) a chosen one.
She makes more times for the Chinese than for her own grand-children for which she has 6. I have a sister and two brothers - we all left the religion and it's only her left in it. She doesn't talk to me brother because he is DA'd and it was announced, the other one never baptised so he get's the enlightening conversation from her from time to time, and my sister who has a baby boy (same age as mine) and lives with her boyfriend (hell-fire and sulphur) also gets enlightening conversation from her from time to time - she is also DA'd. So we're not quite sure how her logic works. All we know is that she seeks to divide and rule and she has lost control, so attention seeking in a congregation who couldn't care less about her is what she has opted for.
I look at her life and think it's totally wasted. She could have it so much better if she made time for her grand-children and dealt with her mental illness. But I don't think she'll ever admit that she has made a horrible mistake all these years and it makes me angry that I have to watch this and be powerless. I just know that my son (and hopefully more soon), will have a life that doesn't make him feel unworthy, lack confidence or embarrassed. I want him to embrase life and travel, go to university and better himself whenever the chances arise and I will do everything in my power to ensure that they do.
sounds like paranoid schizophrenia