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  Could anyone tell me how exactly Jehovah chose the WT society in 1919?

  by Qcmbr in

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  this teaching is so unique and singular to the jws and fascinates me greatly but i have yet to get any jw answer how this choosing actually happened and instead i'm left with the same feeling of confusion that i get when i ask how someone would know they were anointed.

  how did this process of selecting a correct church occur, how did they know it would happen in 1919 if they weren't pre-selected already, how did they know it was going to happen (bit rough on all the other churches who clearly didn't get a chance to spruce themselves up for 1919) and once the votes were cast and jehovah made up his mind how did he inform the contestants of the results?

  do the jws claim any kind of divine affirmation of their selection at all?

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  Butters

  The JW's channel all of their information through Isis. That is what the pyramids and obelisks are for.
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  Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde.

  by scout575 in

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  "thus saith the lord god...a new heart also will i give you, and a new spirit will i put within you: and i will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and i will give you an heart of flesh...and i will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more the reproach of famine among the heathen.

  " ( ezekiel 36:22,26,30 ).

  "and the lord said...go ye after him through the city and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women...and as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will i have pity..." ( ezekiel 9:4-6,10 ).

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  Butters

  You like that one? How about this one out for SIZE!!! The following texts are talking about the exact same event!

  2Sa 24:1

  And again the anger of Jehovah was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them, saying, Go, number Israel and Judah.

  1Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.
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  Guess who came around breakfast...

  by ColdRedRain in

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  2. friends

  yup.

  jw's.

  i told them to come over tomorrow.

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  Butters

  Ya know, I actually once heard a sister say that she didn't care whether Armageddon came or not, she was just plain happy being in Jehovah's Organization. That is a truly blinding thought... That's like saying, "I don't care if this war is ever over or not, I am just glad I could be here overseas killing people for the army."
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  Spy vs Spy—The Watchtower Society's 007 Mentality

  by The wanderer in

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  spy vs spythe watchtower society's 007 mentality the organization was naturally a gossiping paradise.

  to know everything about your business and personal life.

  the most intrusive methods employed in the organization.. laying down your life for your brotherit was amazing to me that more often than not a talk .

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  Butters

  It was amazing to me that more often than not a talk
  would be presented about laying your life down for
  your brother.
  
  This in my opinion was disturbing because it seemed
  that individuals who were your brothers would not think
  twice about turning you in for some perceived wrong-
  doing.

  Yes I always found the borg to be a bit tenacious on this point when it came to things like going out in service and attending meetings and such, but when it came to a brother confiding in another about a particular sin, let's say you boofed the overseer's daughter or something, the news would spread. However, I prefer that the news spreads about things in light of all the sex abuse and other scandalous things. But what is even more ironic is how they then don't apply thier own tact to the outside world about themselves.

  An organization with nothing confide to because of something to hide...

  Sickening.
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  Hello

  by ninja in

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  hello peoples ninja from glasgow in scotland here another person who just realised they were part of a brainwashed cult : ) after twenty odd years, but now has broken free....pity about those around me still in their trenches free at last....free at last he he hear from you all soon da ninja

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  Welcome....
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  Hello

  by ninja in

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  2. friends

  hello peoples ninja from glasgow in scotland here another person who just realised they were part of a brainwashed cult : ) after twenty odd years, but now has broken free....pity about those around me still in their trenches free at last....free at last he he hear from you all soon da ninja

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  Butters

  Welcome....

  
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  2nd Corinthians 3

  by Butters in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i want to get a solid opinion on this chapter from everyone.

  2nd corinithians 3 is a major set back for those who believe in keeping the 10 commandments.

  possibly.

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  Butters

  That's the point. The Pharisees and high priests were abusing the real Torah and adding Dogma. The ten commandments are God's LOVE. They are truth. They are wonderful loving instructions from a loving Father to his children. They are not a burden or anything bad. Torah is great! Shalom! Halleluyah! Praise Yahweh Elohim! May the Holy Ruach Kodesh guide us all to victory over sin in Messiah Yahshua.
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  Guess who came around breakfast...

  by ColdRedRain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yup.

  jw's.

  i told them to come over tomorrow.

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  My favorite question has always got to be how they knew Christ arrived in 1914 (from where to where by the way) when Matthew 24:36 says NO MAN knows when... The where to where part is what I cannot understand. He invisibly returned from Heaven to where? Earth? He must have gone from one point to another to "return" from somewhere to somewhere else. The illusion is quite redundant. Acts 1:7 proves even more this point. Although I forget what the bullshit answer is to this myself. Good luck. May your satan help you deliver them over on this one. (adversary is not a person)..
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  Would You/Do You Remain As A JW "Technically"???

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  technically, since i am not df'd or dissasociated, i am considered by witnesses as an inactive jw.

  i do not actively look to get df'd as i have family that are witnesses.

  if i were ever df'd, then i'd deal.

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  I think I am an inactive JW with a 10 year old bounty on his head (official "ha, we found you, guess what, you're disfellowshipped!" statement of spite). Since I joined up solo, when I was vulnerable and away from home as a young man in school some 15 years ago, (cannot believe it's been that long already), I was easy prey to their soft voice at the door compared to the other religious stuff on TV. I think that is one of their main victory marches that they have, is that softness at the front door which keeps a calm preach, instead of for instance, that fat guy on TV that shouts, and has all the pictures and artwork behind him...umm... forget his name... I think it is John Hagglesby or something...

  Anyway, I left unannounced, and never heard from them since, but I am just now making a reemergence here, and I am sure they have someone who has picked up on the scent. Hopefully leading them right to a big pile of horse apples.
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  Mom spanked the gay out of me

  by katiekitten in

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  is this real?

  or a wind up?

  very funny tho.. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1314410394.

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  Butters

  Not sure what that was a link to now. It took me to an index page.