They probably made money from selling the song books to JWs. Looks like that song book came out before they went to the 'donation' system.
(Statute of Limitations may have expired)
i used to be the piano player at the kingdom hall (before they made the halls play tapes/cd's).
i had no idea that whenever i played song 72, i was doing a song by queen.
queen's song "lazing on a sunday afternoon" was on their 4th album "night at the opera", the same album that had "bohemian rhapsody".
They probably made money from selling the song books to JWs. Looks like that song book came out before they went to the 'donation' system.
(Statute of Limitations may have expired)
i heard that they have released book two at this years assembly, does anybody have a table of contents?
I think they were talking about it in this thread - http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/160902/1.ashx
i came across this video on youtube.
i've never heard of this, and if it is suposedly jesus sign, don't you think russel, and such would have noted it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7jeprptdpo.
This guy used a lot of words but as far as I could tell he never did explain how he thought he could prove 1914 was the correct date.
Do you have the link to the second video?
i read a great article about what i've learned: george carlin.
http://www.topnewsblog.info/tblog_10245.htm.
this great man has given me a little bit of hope for society.
I always loved his comedy and the way he looked at life. He will be missed.
the org will stop charging interest on kh building fund loans effective sep 1, 2008. current loan payment amounts will remain the same so the loans can be paid off sooner.. congregations should continue to donate to the kh building fund, and publishers can donate directly to the fund by sending donations directly to the branch.
congregations are encouraged to forward surplus congregation and operating funds to the branch until the time those funds are needed by the congregation (this was actually read to the congregation...talk about full disclosure).. this is for all branches and congregations, not just the u.s..
Farkel & blondie - thanks for the info. That's something that I had wondered about.
the org will stop charging interest on kh building fund loans effective sep 1, 2008. current loan payment amounts will remain the same so the loans can be paid off sooner.. congregations should continue to donate to the kh building fund, and publishers can donate directly to the fund by sending donations directly to the branch.
congregations are encouraged to forward surplus congregation and operating funds to the branch until the time those funds are needed by the congregation (this was actually read to the congregation...talk about full disclosure).. this is for all branches and congregations, not just the u.s..
I have wondered for the last few years how they were getting away with operating an illegal banking institution.
I had even toyed with the idea of writing to ask one of the govt banking agencies about the situation. Maybe someone actually did question it.
They have to have hundreds if not thousands of current open loans they have made. Those loans should be covered by either federal or state banking regulations.
Would be nice to know what prompted this change.
If they are now going to be taking in deposits to 'hold' for congregations, it would seem they will have to keep track of each 'account'. This should require an account number. Deposits would be made and withdrawn from the account as needed. This would involve even more banking regulations - Reg D, DD & C.
Suppose they have actually chartered a licensed banking institution that we know nothing about?
i have been asked to speak about my experiences at my church sunday to a group of 20-40 year olds.
any suggestions on what to say?
i'm especially considering if i should talk about the pedophiles .... .
I would say it depends on how much time you have. Your outline looks good and I didn't see a real good place to insert it.
Could you do a handout and give them some websites for more information -
i keep hearing this from the dubs at work.
have heard complaints about being in bigger congregations.
all i can think at those moments is... "do they even realize they are complaining about "jehovah's" arrangements"?
No success finding the thread. Tried Google too and one item that came up mentioned 80 as optimum and 25 as minimum.
At any rate - it's all about control. The smaller the group, the more control they have over individuals.
i keep hearing this from the dubs at work.
have heard complaints about being in bigger congregations.
all i can think at those moments is... "do they even realize they are complaining about "jehovah's" arrangements"?
I remember someone on another thread several months back explaining the optimum size congregation for successful mind control is about 92. I will see if I can find that thread.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/dominionpost/4588516a6000.html
Bliss, I am so sorry you have been through that. When I found out all of this had been going on without our knowledge I talked with both of my now adult kids to make sure they had never been molested. As a single mom there were many times I allowed my son to go on camping trips and places with a group of 'brothers'. Fortunately neither he or my daughter had any issues.
It is possible this elder did turn Valentine in but I felt it was more likely he threatened to turn Mr. Valentine in if he didn't turn himself in. That's just speculation on my part though. Hopefully it is more likely now that the elders would take some action. I hope we start to hear of some 'success' stories where they did the right thing.