A labour of love.
definitely reccommend it.
bernadette
this book caught my eye.
is it any good?
my main goal is get aquainted with jw past and then read some of the writings of russell and rutherford.
i remember asking an elder once, "what do you think about meditation?
" he responded that we should not relax and open our minds, as opening our minds can let demons in.
i thought that seemed like a odd response, and looked it up in the watchtower, and sure enough he gave the societies views on meditation.
But, these are no more serious threats than say, a fly or something like that.
thanks satanus, I like that analogy
bernadette
hi folks, .
i,ve been lurking for ages and had a password months ago.
only today i've been able to get in.
Good for you and your husband.
I'm fading too - husband still in- bit my daughter has also started fading
Being here makes it all much easier.
welcome
bernadette
i was raised in the jws.
i could go on and on about what constitutes praying to, allowing, signs, etc.
about the demons.
Country girl
How odd, I have just this minjute posted a question to free2beme on this very subject.
What do you mean by harmless entities?
bernadette
i remember asking an elder once, "what do you think about meditation?
" he responded that we should not relax and open our minds, as opening our minds can let demons in.
i thought that seemed like a odd response, and looked it up in the watchtower, and sure enough he gave the societies views on meditation.
free2beme
I have a question re Clam's point below
At a development circle I was taught to open my chakras but with important emphasis on asking for protection. Since spiritualists are almost always going down the route of communication with spirits, all the ones I know take very seriously the threat of negative spirits and energies
Now I personally feel completely safe and secure when meditating but want to know if you/Clam can expalin why the above is necessary.
I'm wondering if what we call 'demons/negative spirits' is actually collective negative energy from all the hate/insanity around us that we as humans have produced over the years.
bernadette
i remember asking an elder once, "what do you think about meditation?
" he responded that we should not relax and open our minds, as opening our minds can let demons in.
i thought that seemed like a odd response, and looked it up in the watchtower, and sure enough he gave the societies views on meditation.
ithinkisee
you said
I had never felt that combination of feelings before. It was freaky. You know on the Discovery channel, how sea anemones slam shut really quick when a predator is near? That is actually what happened. I actually "saw" it slam shut as I panicked. I inhaled sharply and flinched - like when a part in a movie scares the crap out of you. I tried getting back to that place where my mind opened, but I was so rattled by what just happened I could not settle down again.
I'm glad that you are going to continue past that feeling of fear and freakiness. I have also been there. It is described as the egoic conscious mind trying to wrest control in the same way that your mind kept wandering when you were focusing awareness on your breathing. I understand that one has to surrender to get past that point.
bernadette
hey i am new to this site, just left the jw organization, 20 yrs old and from canada, looking forward to post and chat with others.
yee haw.
i remember asking an elder once, "what do you think about meditation?
" he responded that we should not relax and open our minds, as opening our minds can let demons in.
i thought that seemed like a odd response, and looked it up in the watchtower, and sure enough he gave the societies views on meditation.
I have found simply keeping aware of my breathing brings me into a state of meditation and deep relaxation.
Than giving my attention to the present and calmly not getting sidetracked by the dramas my mind creates and wants to involve me in is one way to start.
Attending to and absorbing nature also helps.
bernadette
he would tell us that he'd been disfellowshipped too and was being shunned
bernadette
dear released-from-care,.
it's a chilly 45 degrees fahrenheit outdoors and i do not wish to risk pneumonia.
i'm under the weather and brand-new sheets and feeling quite indulgent.
off colour humour and whatever film I want to watch and whatever book I want to read
bernadette