Posts by bernadette

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They didn't know 18 to 20 years ago, that pedophiles were harmful?

by horrible life in

http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/717263.htm.

that explains it all.

they just didn't know, that it would be harmful to a child.

bernadette

hmmm, wonder if they've taken the quote out of context.

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Creationism hiding in plain sight

by FireNBandits in

a friend pointed out to me that "theistic evolution" is, in essence, no different than intelligent design.

both postulate a creator that is behind creation.

both use the words "creation" and "creator.

bernadette

I think my responses make my position quite clear. Evolution is fact, science. God is a belief, and a mystical experience. That's not science, except insofar as neuorology is mapping the brain, discovering which parts of the brain are responsible for various mystical experiences. Might there be more to it than simply neurochemistry? Perhaps...but that's faith, not science.

Martin I understand what you are saying and what you have said.

My question is to do with how God was involved in evolution. Do you leave that aspect open because at present it isn't/can't be understood ? Do you have an inkling of it mystically?

bernadette

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Creationism hiding in plain sight

by FireNBandits in

a friend pointed out to me that "theistic evolution" is, in essence, no different than intelligent design.

both postulate a creator that is behind creation.

both use the words "creation" and "creator.

bernadette

hi fireNbandits

I'm a theistsic evolutionst, but I sure as HELL don't want it taught in a science classsroom! WHOSE "creator" are we going to proclaim? There's nothing the least bit scientific about my belief in "theistic" evolution! God is outisde the realm and methodology of science! (Something fundies are unable to either grasp or see the significance of).

I'm curious about what you mean by theistic evolution - care to explain.

thanks

bernadette

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How the Religious View Homosexuality

by serotonin_wraith in

for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

bernadette

bernadette
, by your reasoning, if moving away from scripture (the word of God apparently) is a good thing, then atheists are the most worthy in God's eyes!

but atheists don't believe in god or do they

Personally I don't believe that the bible is the word of god but I view it an authoritative work of sincere believers in god who claim that it is of divine origin.

bernadette

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How the Religious View Homosexuality

by serotonin_wraith in

for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

bernadette

Why is it then, that such change in attitude is always a few steps behind a people not governed by Scripture, and never the other way around?

The teachings attributed to Jesus Christ were radically different and they killed him. It seems to me that some of his teachings were looking forward to a time when people wouldn't be governed by scripture (or moral absolutes). To me that's what it means to be fully human. So in answer to your question - we are getting there - imo its something to aim for.

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How the Religious View Homosexuality

by serotonin_wraith in

for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

bernadette

Sirona I agree with your points

the Sins of Scripture by John Shelby Spong takes a look at homosexuality from a modern day spiritual religious perspective.

If modern day christianity has made changes in perspective with regard to birth control, divorce etc that christians are accepting of and comfortable with why not homosexuality too?

bernadette

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What would you have accomplished?

by restrangled in

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after watching jordon spraks on american idol so strongly supported by her parents, i wonder what some of us could have accomplished had we had the same in our younger years.. what could you have done at that age?.

r..

bernadette

My parents wanted me to do a degree and follow a professional career - they had such high hopes for me. My husband's parents wanted him to do one too, they were livid when he dropped out of doing his A'levels to pioneer.

I really feel like I'd like to complete my education now though but am unsure what in - religious studies. I was never very good at mathematics at school and now feel quite motivated to maybe do a year long highschool level course in maths. Get the old grey cells going - feeling excited thinking about it - good topic restrangled.

bernadette of the not sure class

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Sister-in-law attempts suicide

by golf2 in

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my sister-in-law tried to take her life this afternoon.

it still remains to be seen if she makes it through or not.

though a witness, she's had many bad experiences in life.

bernadette

I'm so sorry golf, the pain she was suffering must have been unimaginably bad. Hope she gets the help she needs.

bernadette

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Does Being A Jehovahs Witness Lead To Disorders?

by The wanderer in

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does being a jehovahs witness lead to disorders?the life of being one of jehovahs witnesses was a challenging one at best .

and an agonizing one at worst.

i recall the days of my black depression .

bernadette

wanderer

I like your raging fire that is the watchtower society analogy - so true, who can remain whole especially as they actively shut one's conscious mind.

bernadette

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Hello

by 38 Years in

i have been reading this board for about 4 years.

after 38 years of being a baptized jehovah's witness, i did some research on the internet and found enough evidence to quit.

that was 4 years ago and i am so much happier now.

bernadette

Hi 38, glad you joined

bernadette