hi all ,got my copy today read 90 pages already ,so far very interesting and an eye opener rutherford comes across as a very dishonest man and a dictator.
knorr comes across as very insecure.anyway back to it .have fun and i will let you know as i read more .dan
found both Ray's books very beneficial.
As far as I'm concerned he did the best he could in the circumstances - although I hear what you are saying Terry.
I've learned a huge lesson about the harm we can do to one another and to ourselves when our identity as a group or even as a person becomes the all consuming thing on which our survival depends. Ray in COC conveys that very clearly.
bernadette
my husband has an ugly temper.
it rears it's ugly head rarely (well used to be rarely) and now it pops up mostly when my oldest boy messes up.
it's so bad that anyone seeing it would call it abuse.
(((((((((Jonesie))))))))
Want to share my exp if it helps.
Was being attacked - one and only time - I immediately dialled the police. When my attacker realised what I was doing he stopped immediately, he got the message, never did it again.
However every situation is different. Weigh it up carefully then decide
love
bernadette
this one was too funny... sent to me by my brother an audio tape of a talk stating that the preaching work is now over and that witnesses are in every country in the world, except north korea, somila, and afganistan (excuse my miss spellings) but really this was just too funny so funny i could not even listen to the whole thing with out screaming in laughter.
the brother goes on to say that they will not be preaching in those countries becaues jehovah god will never put his people in danger and allow them to be killed... hello... what about all those that died over no blood, and what about all those in africa rewanda that the brother told to refuse to except an id card sumilar to our ss card telling those poor brothers that it was a form of worship?
i could not believe it but thought it was just tipical of the times, too many of the witnesses are leaving, and the love of the greater number has cooled the hell off... they are grabbing at straws right about now.
Hi and welcome
My jw neigbour reckons that the fact they are having to do the Revelation for the 4th time means that the end in imminent, much more so than before. It seems that they are beating their drums louder than ever.
meanwhile I'm having a good laugh at honesty's picture. The show ain't done yet
bernadette
can anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?
yup, pubsinger - Val the footballer, good fun.
its getting frighteningly windy here.
at the moment it is between 50 and 60mph but for rush hour in two hours time it is predicted to get up to 80mph gusts here.. outside one of my director's has just had a branch blow into his jaguar rear screen smashing it.
our 20 story building a few doors away is beuing evacuated because sheets of glass are blowing in!.
Very windy here too. just heard that a school wall collapsed killing a child.
If you are home stay home.
by definition faith is something we accept as true though is can not be proven.
i was thinking about the scripture defining faith at hebrews 11:1 "faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for.... ".
assured expectation = we are convinced something is true without proof.
Gill
can anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?
Does anyone remember David Judd - did lots of temp co work. Also very charismatic.
I remember Geoff young - name only - everything else a blank.
by definition faith is something we accept as true though is can not be proven.
i was thinking about the scripture defining faith at hebrews 11:1 "faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for.... ".
assured expectation = we are convinced something is true without proof.
What faith are we discussing here.
Faith=confidence,trust or
faith=religion
or both acting together?
Its becoming very confusing
I vote to keep faith=confidence and discard the rest.
bernadette
lovelylils post made me think.... dubs pretty much rule that particular sector.
my mother was more proud of me working for the p.o.
cleaning toilets than if i had gone on to be a doctor.
I've done my share of window cleaning and domestic cleaning during my pioneer days.
bernadette
on finding the "truth" a former jehovah's witness asks: .
what troubled me most as a jw was that how i could be sure i had the truth.
if you choose a religion and claim it as the truth, it's like saying you are smarter than anyone who believe other religions... imho.
Thanks Randy - I enjoyed that, your thoughts are very enabling and inclusive.
