Posts by bobld

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Theodore Jaracz was the keynote speaker at my convention...

by under_believer in

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we just had our convention at the memorial colosseum in portland, or.

good old teddyj was our keynote speaker.

i can tell you right now that the ol' boy's still alive and kicking.

bobld

You are right the GB are anti-school.This year they had Demos on higher education.They said it was of little value and those who had a degree didn't necessaryly get a better high paying job.In facts those who went to University went on drinking binges had wild sex orgies etc.Also it cost a lot of money.

So lets look at the real truth of the GB.In the Km of 2001 they said.An increasing amount of todays work calls for those who have a background in Electronic or experience with computer programming.Those who are older than 35 and who have specilized skills and training WE can use(abuse) you at Bethel.These include: Dentists,Doctors,Certified Public Accountants,Archtects,Registered Nurses,Engineers,Attorneys.Than they have the balls(maybe not) to say.However,we do not encourage specialized education.Those who have already received specilizied training before coming into the truth, send a detailed resume and attach it to the Bethel application.So those crazy drunken wild orgie students who received their degrees we want you at Bethel to work and slave for us.When we are done with you we will kick you out of Bethel so fast you won't know what hit you.You see in 2001 there were 5730 in Bethel HQ in New York.Today there are about 1900 yet they say there is a great increase in publishers.So GB it's all about money,loot ,riches,wealth yet you don't want the R&F to have any.

As a side note:Why In Sam hell didn't you have a drama about Jesus..The Christ.No you go back to your OT account.The DC theme was about Jesus was it not.

Bob

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A Bible Question, please comment

by restrangled in

there will have to be assumptions involved here.....that god exists, the bible is the word of god and creation is as stated in genesis, etc.

etc.. in the old testament, god seemed pretty straight forward, let certain people know (and not by osmosis) his intent.

backed certain kings, and showed power through physical occurrences over and over again.. along comes his son, who died for the entire race as a ransom for adam's sin.

bobld

It is all about Power.In the 1st century 99.9 % of the people were unlettered.Those who had the smarts controlled everything.Even today same thing.Just a side note I don't think we have the complete correct translation of the NT.Maybe new scrolls will be found and we will get the true meaning of what God/Jesus are.

Bob

PS What the so called smart people said was believed no questions asked.Much like the WBTS.what the GB say is accepted no questions asked

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WT + Awake Update - restrictions

by stillajwexelder in

study edition of the wt will be restricted - it will be as per km

bobld

New WT Public Edition.

Lets see if I got this right...It (WT mag )appeals to Non-Witnesses who may accept the Bible...It shows how the Bible can help families...It deals with world conditions...It shows the reliability of the Bible...It W/A shows what the Bible really teaches.All of the above are from the GB Km which is their internal Memo to the Slaves.

What's with "who may accept the Bible".All true Religion ie R.C.,Lutheran.Baptists, etc have a true translation of the Bible and accept what it teaches.For over 130 years the GB of the WT were preaching from this WT as a Bible base journal.The public kept telling them that the Bible does not teach such things as "PIONEER, 1914,and other unique terms that need explaining.So now they are going to hoodwink the public with their new improved lie.The brain dead slaves will bow down and thank their god,the gb from this new provision.

Why not try a novel new idea and just use the BIBLE for teaching,preaching setting things straight..

bob

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-22-07 WT Study (Elderly Blessing)

by blondie in

elderly ones, a blessing to the young.

do you associate often with people younger than you?

q1, 2) what should elderly servants of god appreciate, and what will we now consider?.

bobld

Thanks,for the review Blondie

Your're right they the GB is stuck on the OT.They tried to play make belief with this years D.C. of "Follow The Christ".Can you imagine when they review the WT at the D.C.this weekend.Notice......Moses is mentioned 7 times,Abraham 8 times, Noah 10 times.Guess how many times Jesus's is mentioned only ONE time.I did not bother counting all the other oldies.

Bob

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

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for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

bobld

Man couldn't develop fully just like that butterfly because God interfered and kicked man out of the garden.

Bob

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-15-07 WT Study (Grayheadedness)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-15-07 wt study (june 1, 2007, pages 21-25)thriving during grayheadness)).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

bobld

Thanks for the review,Blondie

So look at any church 80% who attend are elderly.However, their salvation does not depend on wasted time drving around town putting in fake hours.GB of WBTS you cannot shame your flock to slave for you and expect more.

Bob

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Fading In? Am I nuts?

by jaydoe in

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i am a baptized jw that faded some years back.

in those days i deeply believed in the org and became disillusioned by some things happening in the local congregation.

following some research on the net i decided to fade out of watchtower existence because i did not want to keep mixing with false religion (or so i thought at the time).

bobld

Is it really true you want to go back? Why do you ask? Did someone ask you and /or you read something in the WT/A?Maybe your invit to a D.C?Maybe you do not believe the Scholars on this forum?

Bob

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D.C. "Come Be My Follower" 2007

by bobld in

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that was the new book released at the d.c. some observations:they made reference to john 3:16.i noticed they referred to it a number of times,but only mentioned the 1st part about the ransom and not the part"in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life".

in the book "come be my follower" they criticize christendom and what it believes.page 12 they state the purpose of the book"its aim is,not to give a complete summary of the life and ministry ofjesus,"than on page 22 they state "the study aid,will make a careful study of the life and ministry of jesus".

also on page 12 and page 28 they say see "the greatest man who ever lived" and" what does the bible really teach?

bobld

That was the new book released at the D.C. Some observations:They made reference to John 3:16.I noticed they referred to it a number of times,but only mentioned the 1st part about the ransom and not the part"IN ORDER THAT EVERYONE EXERCISING FAITH IN HIM MIGHT NOT BE DESTROYED BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE"

In the book "Come Be My Follower" they criticize Christendom and what it believes.Page 12 they state the purpose of the book"Its aim is,NOT to give a complete summary of the LIFE AND MINISTRY OFJESUS,"Than on page 22 they state "The study aid,WILL make a careful study of the LIFE AND MINISTRY OF JESUS"

Also on page 12 and page 28 they say see "The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived" and" What Does the Bible Really Teach?" published by Jehovah's Witnesses. When you look at those books both are published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York,Inc. Brooklyn.New York,U.S.A. and International Bible Students Association Brooklyn,New York,U.S.A.

So if I'am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and a publisher of "Come Be My Follower" I can give anyone permission to reproduce and sell any portion of this book.

Bob

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Isn't Jehovah a wonderful God?

by nvrgnbk in

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when i look around at all the people in the world, i'm comforted to know that jehovah will soon destroy them.. i'm talking about people that don't attend our encouraging christian meetings.

yes, people that don't zealously participate in the preaching of the good news.

'what good news?

bobld

Just to show the mental thinking of a JW.When doing the weekly Bible reading in Ezekiel Ch.9 where Jehovah gave instructions to KILL every old man, young man, virgin and LITTLE CHILD.I was asked if I would kill those people.I said never, I'am not a murderer besides to kill a little baby is insane.The person said, what you would not do what Jehovah asked? My reply,it make me sick to the stomach that you would even ask me such a question.

Bob

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NEW policy! NO LIT for EX-JWs!

by MinisterAmos in

it's official; they read the letter tonight that puts forth the new procedure.

if you find an expelled person in the field or are studying with one, you are no longer permitted to give them lit.

presumably the elders make a decision if an expelled one is regularly attending meetings, but only they can give them lit.

bobld

So they (GB) finally gave up on the Watchtower,because people caught on to their lies and it's no longer profitable.Just use the Bible.

bob