so i'm talking to someone from my old hall and he tells me that there are some disgruntled jws (including elders) who feel like some bad decisions are being made by the rbc.. for instance, one hall needed a new roof.
an elder, in the construction business, made a deal with a local non-jw roofer that if the brothers cleared off the old shingles, the roofer would come in with his crew and do the new roof for x amount of dollars.
the rbc elder in charge got wind of that arrangement and nixed the deal.
I believe those contractors who volunteer their time and equiptment say the cost is X amount and say that is a voluntary donation.Which is an inflated price,they get a tax receipt which helps their bottom line.Who care about all the deceit,lies,crooks God knows.The only sad part, many are fooled by this poor excuse of a religion.
Bob
hey all.
right i honestly don't keep up to date what is happening with the jws' changes of thought.
my aunt - who is now listening to reason & is starting to search outside of jw beliefs, mentioned that they were at their bookstudy and the brother said ""we'll be skipping the next paragraph, as there is a change in thought""".
Revelation Book.The GB did publish a 4 page kmsept 06 revision to the book.Then they did publish a 2005 printing of the Revelation book making it look like the just printed more books.However the new printing has so many changes that they(GB) should be ashamed of themselves for saying it's a printing and not a revision.
Bob
PS:The 2005 printing of the book has 10x the correcting than the Sept.km06
friends,.
i just confirmed the "generation" change from another forum in portuguese.
the following is the text in portuguese:.
Replacements for 144,000 if one sins.I thought once God appoints someone he can't be replaced.Example King David he was a very bad dude yet God didn't replace him because God's (H.S.) could read his heart.So what happened to God's H.S. today did it get corrupt by the gs of the wbts.The apostles were imperfect did God need replacements or he just let them write some scrolls that are meaningless.
Bob
friends,.
i just confirmed the "generation" change from another forum in portuguese.
the following is the text in portuguese:.
What gets me is in 2000wt one of the 6 things that gb said the end was near because the (fds-144k) was getting old and some would be on earth when the end came.They also mentioned we are around the corner,the last hour, etc,etc.So now they pull some hayseed out of their asses to extent the sweet smelling shit.This shit is old and really stints.If I was to tell them so they would get awfull mad.
Bob
deliverance from the traps of the birdcatcher.
"[jehovah] himself will deliver you from the trap of the birdcatcher.
the trap of personal differences.
I think the title fits the WBTS(JW) perfectly to a T.They are the ones that trap unexpecting people by their scheming deceitful ways.Shame.shame shame on you GB/FDS.They keep referring back to old WT/RAGS which was new light then old light and who knows what anymore.EX,old/new/old/new GENERATION.Good God these people are sick they need to watch Dr. Phil for the next ten years for therapy.
Bob
hey ya'll.
i know there is a lot of buzz due to the nbc story.
i thought i'd share my experience as an elder dealing with abuse.. i attended 23 different congregations in my life and served as an elder or ms in 9 of them.
slmdf your 97 comments are right on.What gets me about the gb/org.is their out right lies.I see it in their wt/a,d.c,.c.a.,sad.and they pound it in the the heads of the r&f.But,But,how can you escape with the least damage to yourself.your loved one,your children.Because they bought into it line,hook,sinker and cannot see the light of day.They are so brainwashed,mind controlled that a nuclear bomb couldn't dislodge their thinking so saaaaddddd.
Bob
PS :Now that so many elders know how the scum (GB) operates maybe they can back up Bill Bowan and the silence lambs.Also let the media know the truth about the WBTS.Not their lies,half truths.
as wonderful as the coverage was concerning abuse of children in the watchtower organization, i think most of us deep down know that it will be ignored, denied and/or described as apostate lies.. the most we can hope for is enlightenment of the general public to the fact that jw's are no different than any of the other religions they point fingers at.
it will make it more difficult to get a listening ear at the door.. the jw's exist in a very small world.
they are taught anything not coming from headquarters is basically lies.. any mistakes made were due to old light, or as i have heard from my own relatives...."well, the entire world didn't know any better so the "organization" is just catching up like everyone else.
They will say it's all lies,half truth,satan,you can't believe the media.Imagine some even recorded these lies,at least that is what they(gb/fds) said in their watchtowers,d.c.,c.a..When the Bill B.story broke he was telling the truth after all but got DF for being true to God.
Bob
PS They sure like to b'cast to everone when the R.C. does something bad,but when the shoe is on the other foot,they tell everone(JW) to shut up and not believe it.EX.The knocking video how great is was.I saw that crap pure crap.
a producer with nbc in new york called within the past hour to tell me that the segment i interviewed for (once in nashville, tn in august and once in washington, dc in october) is set to air tonight on nbc nightly news with brian williams, that is, if no huge calamity takes place to bump the feature.
this piece will be two minutes and 45 seconds long, the longest slot nightly news has for topics of interest, and will feature a discussion about the court documents that are found on the cd i recently produced, "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis.
in addition, nbc's internet site, msn, will follow with a detailed story.
Jehovah's Witnesses ?WBTS/GB/FDS agreed to paying for doing nothing wrong.I find that odd.Why pay for something that you didn't do.Oh,I'll pay for your SUV for the hell of it.crazy wickos.
Bob
i looked up using an online database the home address for governing body member david h. splane.
the database i used returns the addresses associated with a person going back 25 years.. here are the results:.
david h splane.
Next time he gives a talk, see if he still got a big ring on hisright hand.He may have taken it off since it was pointed out on this forum that many who give talks at d.c./c.a. show off their hardware.
Bob
a producer with nbc in new york called within the past hour to tell me that the segment i interviewed for (once in nashville, tn in august and once in washington, dc in october) is set to air tonight on nbc nightly news with brian williams, that is, if no huge calamity takes place to bump the feature.
this piece will be two minutes and 45 seconds long, the longest slot nightly news has for topics of interest, and will feature a discussion about the court documents that are found on the cd i recently produced, "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis.
in addition, nbc's internet site, msn, will follow with a detailed story.
I thought the WBTS was in 235 countries, in their statement they mention ONLY the USA.What f%&& hyocrisy.On this forum there were cases in Canada and Gr.Britain.How many Catholic priest charged in the first 1900 years of the Catholic church.Compare R.C. members to WBTS.Why not apologize to the victims first, than make your sorry excuses for your greedy organization.
Bob
PS: I can just hear all the excuses the lame elders will be feeding the slaves--word for word from the gestapo.
