Posts by bobld

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Israel ... Jehovah ... The Promised Land ... Genocide

by wannabefree in

this is a topic that i was always uncomfortable with, but, as a good indoctrinated jw got myself to accept the spin.

of course, now that i am out, when i speak with other "christian" friends, they make the same excuses.

god's ways are above our ways ... okay, sure ... but really???.

bobld

My POV.God is the father of the human family and is a deadbeat dad.Would a father in his right mind treat his offspring unequally.Would he educate one and not the other.Would he use one family member to kill (murder) another family member.A father would be unjust if he gave one child a gift w/o giving an equal gift to the others.We can see GOD giving unfair preferential to one person at the expense of another.We know that children are influenced by their father.Children learn by watching parents.(more later)

Now imgine you are the NBC evening news anchor.Here is your script for the latest world news headlines.Holy war against Midian:Men,women,children killed,cities burning.War against the Amalekites:Men,women,children.babies,cattle,sheep,camela,donkeys killed.

This just in, King David makes love to Bathsheba Uriah's wife,he then kills Uriah.King David takes an unlawful cenus resulting in 70,000 deaths.

You know when we hear in the news of a parent killing a child(baby) it tears our hearts.Not one person would say that is ok ,yet there are those who say it is ok if god does it.Sad sad sad.

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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.

by BU2B in

if one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.

if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.

how do jws not see the obvious?

bobld

The Watchtower condemns and chastises anyone who watches a violent movie or kids watching Wile E.Coyote/roadrunner cartoons.Than they demand that parents read the bible to their children every day and to meditate on every word.Can you imagine having a six year one kid constantly thinking everyday about rape,murder,war,babies being killed or his favorite cat/dag being killed.And this past few weeks about men(fathers to a 6 yr old) having so many mommies.

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I thought this is an interesting stat.

by bobld in

jw
friends

in 2007 a church developed a bibleapp.

for mobile devices.to date 127 million bibleapps.

in 739 bible version in over 460 languages have been installed in mobile devices around the globe.they have correspondence from 227 countries.over 1 billion bible apps were opened in 2013.talk about proclaming god's word world wide with modern media.they also have a bibleapp for kids.all for free..

bobld

google bibleapp or youversion

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I thought this is an interesting stat.

by bobld in

jw
friends

in 2007 a church developed a bibleapp.

for mobile devices.to date 127 million bibleapps.

in 739 bible version in over 460 languages have been installed in mobile devices around the globe.they have correspondence from 227 countries.over 1 billion bible apps were opened in 2013.talk about proclaming god's word world wide with modern media.they also have a bibleapp for kids.all for free..

bobld

In 2007 a church developed a BibleApp. for mobile devices.To date 127 million BibleApps. in 739 bible version in over 460 languages have been installed in mobile devices around the globe.They have correspondence from 227 countries.Over 1 billion bible apps were opened in 2013.Talk about proclaming god's word world wide with modern media.They also have a bibleapp for kids.All for free.

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This weeks book study and Bible Hi-lites

by bobld in

god can be our special friend.we can get to know him by his creative works and his word the bible.he provided a ransom(jesus) for sinners.a friend who cares about you,understands you and is loyal.. however,would you want god to be your friend after you read the bible hi-lites.a god who burns people with alive with fire and sulfur:gen19.

if your friend talked to you like this,abimelach,you are a dead man,for that woman you have taken is already married:gen 20.

(side note remember k.david).

bobld

God can be our special friend.We can get to know him by his creative works and his word the bible.He provided a ransom(Jesus) for sinners.A friend who cares about you,understands you and is loyal.

However,would you want God to be your friend after you read the Bible hi-lites.A God who burns people with alive with fire and sulfur:Gen19. If your friend talked to you like this,Abimelach,You are a dead man,for that woman you have taken is already married:Gen 20.(side note remember K.David)

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I feel sorry for the R.Catholic's that got hoodwinked by the J.W.watchtower cult

by bobld in

jw
friends

they are now apostates in the eyes of the church.they are ostracized by family and friends.they have lost the privilege of confessing their sins to a priest and the blessed sacrament of the holy eucharist.just imagine and 18 yr old getting the boot from the parents to leave home.. now,the brainwashed cult member has the audacity to tell family and friends(if allowed) that the r.c.c.

lied to him/her and said that they could not read and understand the bible w/o the help of the priest.heaven forbid,if they read the publications of the watchtower,the faithful slave(gb) tells j.w.

that they cannot read the bible on their own and understand it w/o the help of the slave.it is in one ear and out the other.. r.c.c would not ostracize their members..

bobld

They are now apostates in the eyes of the church.They are ostracized by family and friends.They have lost the privilege of confessing their sins to a priest and the blessed sacrament of the holy eucharist.Just imagine and 18 yr old getting the boot from the parents to leave home.

Now,the brainwashed cult member has the audacity to tell family and friends(if allowed) that the R.C.C. lied to him/her and said that they could not read and understand the bible w/o the help of the priest.Heaven forbid,if they read the publications of the watchtower,the faithful slave(GB) tells J.W. that they cannot read the bible on their own and understand it w/o the help of the slave.It is in one ear and out the other.

R.C.C would not ostracize their members.

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To the gullible jw who beleive (worship) the GB

by bobld in

jw
friends

in this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the gb directive in part says "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not".

it behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the gb) only to find out the message was false.see wt july 15,2013 p8.-great tribulation did not begin in 1914.judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.wt 1984,1914 the generation that will not pass away.. in your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.the proper thing to do is resign from this organization.

go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).go preach the true gospel of jesus christ..

bobld

ShirleyW -Its the NOV. 15/2013 wt

Also I might add some of the comments you will hear at the wt study.Such as:Even if we don't understand something,we must obey the faithful slave.Or the faithful has our best interest.Sometimes we just have to wait for further clarification.Even if it doesn't make sense to us,we know the faithful slave is right.

This bs about the light gets brighter.Remenber the 2000 wt said,we are deep,deep into the last days because the old farts were getting really old and would be around to see the end.I was totally wrong when I said the light will get brighter in 10 years.I got a spanking for that comment.Unfortunately they didn't apolize when the light got brighter in 4 years.

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To the gullible jw who beleive (worship) the GB

by bobld in

jw
friends

in this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the gb directive in part says "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not".

it behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the gb) only to find out the message was false.see wt july 15,2013 p8.-great tribulation did not begin in 1914.judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.wt 1984,1914 the generation that will not pass away.. in your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.the proper thing to do is resign from this organization.

go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).go preach the true gospel of jesus christ..

bobld

In this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the GB directive in part says "All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not"

It behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the GB) only to find out the message was false.See wt july 15,2013 p8.-Great tribulation did not begin in 1914.Judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.Jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.Wt 1984,1914 The generation that will not pass away.

In your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.The proper thing to do is resign from this organization. Go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).Go preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Is God Cruel mat wt 2013

by bobld in

my opinion.

divine judgements-were they cruel.flood of noah-destruction of the wicked.tell me how are animals wicked.drowning them is cruel.babies are not wicked.

and drowning them is cruel.. sodom and gomarrah-burning homosexuals is cruel.today there are many countries(with wicked rulers) that are anti-homosexual and have laws resulting.

bobld

My opinion

Divine judgements-were they cruel.Flood of Noah-destruction of the wicked.Tell me how are animals wicked.Drowning them is cruel.Babies are not wicked

and drowning them is cruel.

Sodom and Gomarrah-burning homosexuals is cruel.Today there are many countries(with wicked rulers) that are anti-homosexual and have laws resulting

in various punishments but burning homosexuals is not one of them.

Exterminations of the Canaanites(more like genocide).How are animals and babies wicked.Killing them is cruel.You say Jehovahs lovingly reminds us.that the choice parents make affect their childern:Deut,30:19,20.So what happened to Noah's descendents(grandson-Canaan)Why not kill Adam AND Eve they set a bad ex.and their choice affected all mankind.

Lets look at GOD'S rulership of his nation Israel(which he since has abandoned).What does the bible say in Deut-----If you do not honor the wonderful and awesome name of the Lord your God.He will...notice some of the things he will do to the citizenry (see complete list in Lev.26:14-26 and Deut.28:15-58) Yes Sir Jehovah your (really compassionate,long-suffering,just)God will

Strike you with tuberculosis,burning fever,inflammation,feverish heat,scorching blight,mildew.Strike you with boils of Egypt,piles,eczema,skin lesions from which you cannot be healed.Strike you with madness,blindness,confusion.Strike you with painful and incurable boils on your knees and legs,form the sole of your foot to the crown of you head.Send wild animals that will kill your children and domestic animals. etc.

A ruler like that---no thanks.Ans that is all I have to say about that.

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BOE letter: New lights new changes

by pixel in

re: adjustments to draw close to jehovah.

dear brothers:.

some changes involving our understanding of the meaning of gods name and what it re p- resents have been made to the first chapter of draw close to jehovah.

bobld

Very interesting.Now if they only stop using and saying Jesus used Jehovah's name.I for one could not get my head around how JW would say when Jesus

said the Lord's prayer."Our Father...he was using Jehovah's name.