J.W. must preach this message by primitve method,ie as in the day of the ASS.The evangelical use the internet,T.V., radio,cell phone(which serve over 80% of the world).When people receive the msg via modern means they respond.
Posts by bobld
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Do JWs tithe?
by lavendar in.
just thought of this.....and was curious.
do they give part of their income to the wts?.
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bobld
No but they pass resolutions,they request how much you can give ie donations, free loans, etc when they build new k.h. or assembly complexes.Same dam thing as passing collection plates.Just asking for money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in a different way so they can say we are not like christians who fleece the flock.Just another way of lying,liars.Don't you believe them, when they say their services are free no collections..liars.Why don't they admit it when churches pass collection plates because they need money for utillities,maintenance,etc. So why would the wbts/gb criticize the churches for collecting money at least the churches are HONEST not like the wbts.Who say one thing and do another liars.
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help question(s) on 1914
by bobld inper wbts:"you can live forever in paradise on earth" ch 16. from 607 b.c.e.
to 1914 or "the time of the gentiles" during this time,god did not have a gov't to represent his rulership in the earth.the command to restore and rebuild the walls of jerusalem was given in 455 b.c.e.
jesus was baptized.. per wbts: wt64 p.80 in part .
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bobld
Thanks for your response.My take,if God abandoned the nation of Israel (Jews) in 607 bce,why did he have them return to their home land in 537 or 455 bce per wbts to rebuild the holy temple.Why not wait until messiah comes in 29ce.Why does the wbts give two dates in rebuilding Jerusalem?
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bobld
Mary....Brilliant.excellent commentary.
This WT just p.... me off.They had this same old stuff in the 60 eeth.sell you house.use your vacation time to pioneer.simpify.Poineers are happy.When the end didn't come and the suckers had to pay debts, medical bills etc,etc oh, we didn't tell you to sell your home etc etc.liars that is what they are.
They are now doing telephone witnessing or should I say another asshole to bother me at supper time.Oh they say this is an important livesaving work,crazy a.h.Yet these same people get pissoffed when a telemarketer calls them.Two faced hypocrites.
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help question(s) on 1914
by bobld inper wbts:"you can live forever in paradise on earth" ch 16. from 607 b.c.e.
to 1914 or "the time of the gentiles" during this time,god did not have a gov't to represent his rulership in the earth.the command to restore and rebuild the walls of jerusalem was given in 455 b.c.e.
jesus was baptized.. per wbts: wt64 p.80 in part .
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bobld
Per wbts:"you can live forever in paradise on earth" Ch 16
From 607 b.c.e. to 1914 or "the time of the gentiles" During this time,God did not have a Gov't to represent his rulership in the Earth.The command to restore and rebuild the walls of Jerusalem was given in 455 b.c.e. and in 29 c.e. Jesus was baptized.
Per wbts: WT64 P.80 in part
"rebuilding Jerusalem from 537 b.c. forward,to become a holy city with Jehovah's temple of worship"
Q1 When was true worship restored to Jerusalem?
Q2 Who was ruling Jerusalem when the exciled Jews rebuild Jehovah's temple of worship?
Q3 Could the Gentiles be ruling when Jehovah had a holy temple in Jerusalem?
Q4 Explain the discrepancies of the two publications of the GB?
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Is the Watchtower Society running short of cash?
by isnrblog inis the fact that they are printing fewer magazines, like having just one watchtower for a whole month indicate financial troubles?.
definitly a cost saving measure.. www.isnrblog.com.
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bobld
I agree with Blondie.In the past year or so I have noticed that @C.A.,SAD,C.O. visits they are saying.Be more productive don't waste time on people who just take the Mags.Find people who you can convert.They say IF IF a dead R.V. wants a Mags go and give him one but don't spend time with him.Going from door to door is the most productive in finding (sheep) suckers.In other words mags costing mother corp to much money to just give away without results.
I believe the WBTS is in the process of weaning the R&F from the Mags.In the near future the WT/A will not be offered to the public costs to much for mother corp.Notice how they the GB slowly introduced only one AWAKE,than only one WATCHTOWER to the public.Notice how they bragg about the suceessful tract campaigns.Testing the R&F with their marketing schemes.
About dead beat R.V.This reminds me of multilevel marketing.If any of you that have been involved in MLM remember what your upline told you.Don't waste your time on losers by giving your materials away ie,books,tapes etc, fine someone who is really interested.Well that is what I'am hearing from the platform in the K.H. today.Don't give Mags away, cut your orders down it's costing us to much money.Don't waste your time on losers.Also they can't recoup their losses because of the donation arrangement and the tax laws.
The R&F are just giving to many Mags away for free.When the WBTS offered the mags for a printing cost I thought that was a good idea,because if a person paid something at least he would look at it.Howvever the wbts bragged about how this free lit offerred was so good that people really wanted the mags and would garb them out of your hand.HAHAHAHAHA I said yeah the Catholics were only to happy to grab them out of your hand so they could throw them in the grabage.The WBTS now knows the real story behind the free lit offer.Bet your bottom dollar the free lit offer is going by the way of the DOO DOO bird.
You can now download their mags from their www site saves them more money.
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Universal Issue of Sovereignty Does NOT Exist....Proof......
by oompa inwe are taught that the $hit mankind has endured for thousands of years is because satan said something that could be construed to be bad about god, and so god said...."let's let mankind see if they are better off following satan and leading themselves, or following me.
" now thousands of years later, this universal issue is still not settled...after all...the angles and demons are waiting with baited breath for the end result.. do you think that just because you were taught since youth that this "universal sovereignty issue" is real, it is?
i have some real good biblical reasons this is not even an issue.............................................oompa.
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bobld
I believe their was a power struggle in heaven and
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My Essay....Is the Watchtower Org. A Prophet?
by middleman inbefore i get into what im going to talk about today, id like to share a few quotes that im in agreement with.
error always seeks the dark, while truth is always enhanced by the light.
this found on pg.
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bobld
Good research hard to read.What I dislike about the wbts is you can't question their interpretion of the Bible even when they are wrong but you have to wait for the fds/gb.
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bobld
Thanks Blondie I enjoy your comments.Your concluding comments are right on.Just think 1.4 billion wasted hours in the D-D work and only 298k ducked mostly J.W.kids who only do it to please their brain washed parents.
What has sovereignty got to do with worship when satan talks to J.C.?
What has sovereignty got to do with Jesus Christ death and ranson?
Why blame Satan for J.C.death? Didn't God send him to the earth to die?Someone had to carry out the deed.
I believe there are tens of thousands on this board that found the real truth about the wbts and in only in for family.Eventually they will leave.
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Anyone know what the WT society is worth? and what do they do with it all?
by cognac injust curious
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bobld
cognac for canada you can go to www.cra-arc.gc.ca and follow the links and you can find out the value of the buildings they own.ie kh,ah,ch,etc