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--- A Question for ALL Atheistic ex-Dubs----

by gordon d in

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friends

which child is wiser?

while starting a hunt for easter eggs one child runs to a big tree and finds nothing then that childs brother says, go look under that rock i promise youll find one there!

the child throws down their basket and says, i give up!

Abandoned

And what the Heck? Even if you never can find him and you spent a fraction of your 70-or-so pitiful years, searching in vain, for hope on this Godless rock….. what difference does it make???? Get busy living or get busy dying… but please, don’t pull anyone else down into your hopelessness with you!

No offense but wasn't one of the jw's favorite tactics to make people think that they needed what the jw was selling? Maybe, just maybe, God doesn't need us professing any manmade faith to live a life that makes his heart melt.

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I like peaches

by jgnat in

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friends

looking at the different ways my sister and i approach life, i'd decided people are either peaches or they're lobsters.

my sister is all tough and crusty on the outside.

you'd never know if something is bothering her.

Abandoned

Yeah, it's funny how we all go through similar things but come up with widly dissimilar ways of coping. My brother and I couldn't be more different as well.

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The heavenly resurrection of 1918: "An interesting possibility"

by AnnOMaly in

possibility?

they must be joking!.

watchtower january 1, 2007, 'the first resurrection - now under way!

Abandoned

All the evidence

Say, could you pass me another helping of this here evidence, because I seem to have missed it somehow.

Also included in the study article is a reiteration that "the resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today."

Actually, this could be true. With the convoluted mess of their current beliefs, they probably are getting them from a sprit version of (non)judge rutherford.

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in love with a very confused jw

by limitless in

hi guys,.

this is a fairly long story, so bear with me.... twelve years ago i dated a jw man briefly in new york.

we got along really well, but he stopped calling.

Abandoned

also...when he could have made it clear what his beliefs were, he never did. when my mom asked him what he was doing for christmas, he never said he didn't celebrate christmas. when he talked about not going to college, he never mentioned that it was mainly to do with his beliefs. it's like he kept it all hidden...

One thing about the indoctrination process of the jw is to learn how to lie without lying. Lying is bad and will lead to destruction but to be a jw, you have to lie. So, instead of lying jw learn how to change subjects and evade and leave someone thinking they received the answer they were looking for without actually saying anything concrete. It is a part of the "bible study" from day one.

Another aspect of being a jw that plays a part here is the fact that some part of the mind can see the inconsistencies in the religion. Through the watchtower and other publications they are taught how to ignore doubts and replace unsettling thoughts with pleasant ones of the paradise they've carefully painted. But, even with all the indoctrination, there's a part of the brain that knows it's being dishonest.

This man is not going to change unless he decides to investigate the doubts. If he doesn't he may go back to the jw for awhile and then leave again and go back because his brain has been trained to believe that it's the only religion and that for him to be truly happy, he needs to be do his fair share. If he examines the doubts, he'll see the inconsistencies and can then break free from the indoctrination.

I've been out for over four years, and up until this year, I KNEW I was an evil and worthless person who was going to be destroyed. It's asinine. It's your choice to do what you want, but my advice is to remember that you can't change anyone that doesn't want to be changed. If you don't mind the uncertainty about his beliefs, if his positive qualities outshine the negative, you may have a great thing here, but there are no guarantees that he'll ever make a complete break from the jw.

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Caption Time - Improper Office Romance

by jgnat in

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friends

help me break in my new scanner, and test out your photoshop abilities.

here are two of my favorite images from last year.

comments or captions anyone?.

Abandoned

Thank you for the gift, but I can't accept it. My parents told me that people with blue smocks are bad association.

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Sparkplug is in surgery now

by hambeak in

i called the hospital a few minutes ago and sparky is currently in surgery.

i am going to by on my way home from work and say hi.

should i bring some flowers?

Abandoned

Get well and get back here soon.

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To Live 1,000 Years in JW Paradise

by Amazing in

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friends

would you really want to live in jw paradise?

armageddon has just ended ... the dust is settling ... you discover you are still alive ... and with that you see millions of dead bodies all about you (some big city like london, rome, paris) ... then you see a few others walking around ... you get up and rush to them to find out what they are doing ... they are fellow jws who survived armageddon, just like you .... .

more and more gather until there are a few hundred in your area.

Abandoned

Unless the new scrolls contain some new light regarding oral sex, I don't think I want to be there. LOL!!!

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What will your God do to Jehovah's Witnesses?

by BCZAR2ME in

on judgement day--what will be the fate of jehovah's witnesses?.

bczar.

Abandoned

Well, I can't help but think of the scripture that talks about only receiving mercy if you gave mercy. I hope God proves to be more merciful than that though, as I think eternal life would be a lonely place if everyone were judged on their worst day. Maybe we'll all be judged on our best day and everyone of us will one day be friends. I don't hold any grudges against the jw grunts, I remember what it was like. I wasn't trying to hurt anyone. I do hold it against the (non)judge rutherfords, fred franzs, milton hinschels and their ilk though.

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Transference of Energy

by researcher in

i have been informed that an elder's wife is involed with a certain type of "medicinal treatment" that among other strange things, includes a 'transference of energy'.

in other words, the elder's wife can work remotedly on other people's medical conditions, without having them present.

another wife of a different elder in the same congregation wrote a letter to the service desk in canada about it, and the result was the ciruit overseer met with the elder and his magically endowed wife, and encoraged her to not focus on the stuff that seemed to bother some in the congregation, etc... hmmm, if the person was not the wife of an elder, they would normally have certain priveliges removed etc...... any comments on this?

Abandoned

**off-topic alert**

If so, the CO should have advised Crooklyn Bethel so she could tell them when False Religion is going to meet its end and the exact date for the BIG A.

The above got me thinking. Maybe if some of these guys let themselves experience the big O they wouldn't be so concerned with the big A.

**end off-topic**

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SO, IS SELF-SACRIFICE A "GOOD" THING?

by Terry in

images pop in one's mind.

a ritual offering to a tribal deity, a slain ox, even a virgin bound with tethers and killed to appease an island volcano....... is a sacrifice giving up a greater value to gain a lesser value?

usually, when we collectively consider what a sacrifice is we think of a particular person giving up something very dear to them (taking a loss personally) in order for the group they belong to to achieve a greater benefit as a whole.. dying for one's country, for example, means just that; an individual defends the nation as a whole within an army and the loss of that particular life is toward achieving a goal considered worthwhile.

Abandoned

Is self-sacrifice a "good" thing?

It's like Nicolas Cage said in The Family Man when his "daughter" asked him if he liked kids: "On a case by case basis."

Anyway, I think too often that the motivation behind self-sacrifice is the desire to inflate and already over-inflated ego. While it's always nice to get credit for a good deed, if getting credit was the primary motivation: Where's the love? Or to put it in other terms, if a high-risk lending institution loans someone with bad credit a thousand bucks with 24% interest, is it a show of self-sacrificing love they are doing by risking their money, or just a potentially lucrative business decision? If the reason I'm helping the other person is for the accolades? Well...