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  The book of Revelation, the word of God, or one hell of a drug trip?

  by free2beme in

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  2. friends

  what more confusing and off the wall book in the bible, can there be, then the book of revelation.

  it has all sort of odd things being talked about, all sorts of weird events that seem to only be connected when you twist the mind to the maximum of your imagination.

  so many people, in religions, have tried to explain this off the wall book and yet refuse to face the fact that it might just be complete imagination of nonsense.

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  Although I made the spoken dude all frazzled when I suggested this in a previous thread, I think John must have been on something. It could be some ancient form of Alzheimer's or other type of dementia as well, but I think John would have fit right in to the '60s. Though, I doubt he would have been a witness.
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  Disfellowshiping dead people

  by free2beme in

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  2. friends

  i was in the witnesses in my twenties and one time i was over at a house of a woman who needed some help.

  we were cleaning her house, making her some meals and so on.

  all this was to make her life easier, while she dealt with some things in here life.

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  Disfellowshipping after death would bring up a number of sticky issues for a jw.

  • Aren't a person's sins paid for on death?
  • Isn't it jehovah and jesus's job to judge the dead?
  • Would this suggest that they aren't really dead - the soul doesn't really die?
  • Since disfellowshipping, by definition involves fellowshipping, does this suggest that witnesses fellowship with the dead?

  Just my thoughts...
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  KM Insert "How Do I View Blood Fractions..." Complete Scan and PDF

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  download pdf here (all four pages).

  page 1 of insert: http://i11.tinypic.com/2s67s6g.jpg.

  page 2 of insert: http://i12.tinypic.com/2dtnpr9.jpg.

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  I had to check back and forth between the two page about three times to make sure I was reading everything correctly. It will be very difficult for many of the JW's to understand this insert. They have made this subject very scientific now and most won't do the needed research to fully understand it.

  They really are setting the foundation to reverse this aren't they? I would never have believed it, but this just reeks of a wt smokescreen.
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  for those who were abused sexually or know of someone who was

  by Sam87 in

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  2. child-abuse

  did it get dealt with at all?

  are the offenders still out there ?

  have they been dealt with by the law?

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  I was molested, but not by a witness. I didn't even know the witnesses existed until I was 20. One of my dad's friends talked my dad into letting me stay at his house since he didn't have kids. I don't remember when it happened as I blocked it out for years, I only know the time period based on where my dad was living at the time. Anyway, the guy was a bus driver. I never said anything. I felt like crap for a long time about all the other kids he could have hurt but I was too immature to know what to do. What made me feel the worst, and I'm saying it even though I'm scared right now, is that I came. I didn't mean to. I don't know why I did. I hated myself when I remembered that too. Anyway, he's dead now.
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  What were you praying about before you left the JWs?

  by MegaDude in

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  2. friends

  i was earnestly praying to serve jehovah and give him my all.. in short order i found i was heading toward the unthinkable.

  i was on my way out of the watchtower and the only life i had ever known.

  pretty ironic.

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  I don't remember what I was praying about. I remember we had a visit from the co and another elder though. We hadn't been going to the meetings very regularly and even though our marriage was probably the strongest aspect of our lives at the time, the co tried and tried to convince us that we were having marital problems. I think he just wanted us to talk about our sex life.
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  How do other religions compare with Jw?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a jw i saw in other religions, ritualism, insignificant ceremoniies, unecessary restrictions, erroneous bible interpretations, doctrines and teachings, and hateful conspiracy with governments to kill or imprison or stop individual jws, or the jw movement.

  today, i respect what people belive but what i think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people.

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  Today, I respect what people belive but what I think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people

  Yeah, there's even religions who don't bother killing people themselves, they just go around teaching people that god's going to do it.
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  19th Birthday Party

  by Madame Quixote in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my daughter will be turning 19 on the 24th.

  this weekend we're having a dinner party for her at indochine restaurant and then taking her guests to the movies.

  i am so pleased that i am able to do this without one iota of fear or guilt like the jws wish they could still impose on us.

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  Happy birthday to your daughter. I'm glad that you're able to celebrate your love for her without guilt and without intimidation. That's a wonderful thing.

  Please allow me to brag about my saturday as well. I asked out a pretty young lady from work and we're going out for dinner and a movie. For the first time since I started studying with the jw, I don't feel like I'm a worthless piece of crap who's nothing but a liability.
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  JW start out early making you feel guilty

  by MsMcDucket in

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  2. friends

  i remember when they wouldn't give me the kingdom ministry because i wasn't an approved associate/publisher/baptised.

  i started thinking god everybody knows that i am not good enough for jehovah.

  if i had of only known then what i know now, i wouldn't have fell for it.

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  I remember being told that I could not read or obtain a copy of the organization book until I was dedicated and slated for baptism. Always guilting you to go a little further into their trap. Bad thing is that it worked at the time.

  Yeah, they don't want someone with an unclouded mind to read this book. Red flags about the jw being a cult are peppered throughout this book.
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  Were you ever "all in"?

  by nonamegiven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of us here who are xjw's for varying degrees (df's, ds'd or just faded away {the greatest feat of all}) looking back to your years as an active jw, were you ever 100% mentally?

  i thought i was but looking back when i was a ms and being groomed for elder i was very zealous but still didn't like field service but loved helping out.

  now i look back i see i was just looking for acceptance from other, not serving god.. i would elaborate but i plan on posting "my story" soon.. how about you?.

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  I was as IN as I'm OUT now. If I wouldn't have put my whole soul, heart, mind, and strength into this horse pucky, I possibly would still be wondering about whether I didn't do a good enough job or something. AS it is, I HAVE A GREAT FREENESS OF SPEECH because I gave it all I had and still didn't do enough.
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  thank god (another letter to jehovah)

  by theinfamousone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear jehovah,.

  it has been a few days since we have last spoken.

  well, since i sent you a letter.

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  Even if you choose not to believe.

  Since in the first part of your post you say that you already know what theinfamousone is thinking, then why do you need to preface this with the above? Unless of course you just want him to feel guilty for not honoring you.

  Guilt for sale (sung to the tune of Love for sale)

  When the only sound in the empty street
  Is the horrid tread of the horrid feet
  That belong to the hypocrite
  I want to quit

  When the self-righteous gazing down
  On the rest who don't bow down
  See the smiles in their eyes
  Even though they're not baptised

  Guilt for sale
  Depressing yucky guilt for sale
  Guilt that's meant to make me toil
  Guilt like manure upon the soil
  Guilt for sale

  Who will come?
  When the invitation calls them dumb?
  Who's prepared to pay the price?
  And be mislead to paradise?
  Guilt for sale

  Let the loveless talk of guilt
  In their childish way
  I know of life without guilt
  Let them go away.

  Guilt for sale.
  Depressing, yucky guilt for sale
  If you want to be depressed
  Be a sheep just like the rest
  Guilt for sale
  Guilt for sale