If god wants me he can ring my doorbell; he knows my address. (Now watch two publishers arrive and offer me the Watchtower!
Naw, that would just prove that satan reads these forums too...
my first post since being reinstated (not jw but on the board) .
i think that mean people are not very nice... .
that hypocrites should consider that they might be behaving foolishly... .
If god wants me he can ring my doorbell; he knows my address. (Now watch two publishers arrive and offer me the Watchtower!
Naw, that would just prove that satan reads these forums too...
ok guys, time to weigh in.. what do you think about a woman asking a man out on a date, especially a first date?.
good idea?
bad idea?
I'm too dense to know when a woman is merely being friendly or has something more in mind. I am always friendly, outgoing and light-hearted with strangers in person and the response I get is usually the same. Somewhere in all that there may be signals--but--I'd never know it.
Wow, I bet we were separated at birth. This is exactly me. I have a date tomorrow with a girl from work. We've talked quite a bit and she has the prettiest smile I've ever seen, but I have no clue if she's interested or not. She said yes so that's a good sign, but she could just be lonely and biding time for Mr. Right to come along. I'd get the word dense tattooed on my forehead, but it appears that those of the female pursuasion can see it already.
Still she is cute and sweet and one can always use more friends too.
i was in my truck in town and talking with my sis-in-law whom i met on a side street, and while we were discussing something, she noticed a group of 4 people, 2 women, and two girls, walking up and down the other side of the street, then they got in their car, and stayed there.
so, when she left, i pulled right up next to them, and asked them if they happened to be j.w.'s?
the driver gave me a huge smile, and said, "yes, we are!
Hubert: have you seen the latest info about the blood issue? Maybe you were right and your article was the beginning of a reversal of the policy?
I definitely think he's right. For the longest time, this is one of the things I would never have believed that they would turn around due to all the people who are going to wake from their brooklyn-induced sleep, but it all makes sense. I think the "governing body" really believe that they are above EVERYTHING. I think they really feel that they can do or say anything and it will be taken as gospel.
Look at their record. With zero wins and too many to count losses (prophecy-wise) they still have people defending them as if they were god himself. Yep, I sincerely think we're going to see some new light in the next six months to a year. I think it's going to effectively, though probably not in these words, do a 180 on the blood policy. I think they are probably right now debating and hammering out how they are going to word everything and which scriptures they are going to use to justify it to minimize the number of apostates this decision will no doubt create.
we all went to the same kingdom hall.
another thing that bothered me was the lack of love.
i was bothered that the arguments and logic of the society commonly made little sense.
Renee,
I don't have any family in "the truth" so I can't sympathise with you on that, but I do know what it's like to second-guess yourself. Keep going, though, and eventually you'll the disconnect. It takes awhile to get all of the brainwashing and indoctrination out of your system. It takes a while to get their demand for respect out of your thoughts.
I know you can do it though.
i was reading through nelly136's thread on disgusting dub poetry (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/124225/1.ashx) and i felt inspired.
it's still a little rough, but let me know what you think.
perhaps it could become a collaboration.
kpappl,
Stick around here my friend and read the posts. Also, check out www.freeminds.com.
Nearly everyon here understands your feelings of guilt and shame because we've lived that same mess. We all know what it's like to want to serve God with a full heart but then be made to feel like a piece of crap from the literature and the congregation.
Buddy, life after the jw can be amazing, but it's important to study the truth about the organization and realize that they are not God's servants and that they had no right to make you feel as worthless as they did.
Anyway, welcome to the forum.
Tom
i would love to here anyone elses, here's mine i thought i would relay to you.... .
i decided to go to college after my disfellowshipping to get an education and while there i worked as a part time bar man.
i used to work in quite a smokey atmosphere, probably for a year or two.. one day, i was at the laundry and a girl next to me lit a cigarette and i remember trying desperately to breath the fumes in and what a relief it was to get a fix on my night off, even though all this time i had turned down cigarettes when offered.. thursday night was student night at the local night club and i used to go down there with a friend from work and a few others and one week we all pilled back to mine which wasn't far.
Good luck quitting. It's very rewarding to do it because you love yourself rather than to appease an unpleasable organization.
since i've been on jwd for a year, i thought i'd post about changes in my life.
and can you believe it: despite turning my back on the org, i haven't turned into a drug-addicted, alcoholic, crack ho .
in my first post, i still identified myself as a liberal jw.
Congratulations and don't worry about not becoming a drug-addicted, alcoholic, crack ho, you have plenty of time for that.
for me i found myself more involved politically and in community and business affairs.
not as cynical as i once was and not as judgemental as when i was a jw.
also more empathetic about people and finally able to see some beauty in the world.
I'm not as judgmental and I don't fake indignation over "naughty" jokes anymore.
hese are all related to the brainwashing though, so since I'm now aware of them, I'm confident of a full recovery.
i was reading through nelly136's thread on disgusting dub poetry (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/124225/1.ashx) and i felt inspired.
it's still a little rough, but let me know what you think.
perhaps it could become a collaboration.
OK, here's the current version with bernadette's additions.
The Year Marketeers
I still remember when jehovah was courting
with killing the bad in the year nineteen fouteen
Then we were told we'd want to be alive
To see the destruction in ninteen twenty-five
But those years passed us by without armageddon's debris
Perhaps it would happen in nineteen forty-three
World war two disappeared in the anuls of time.
And there on the horizon sat nineteen seventy-five.
People sold houses and gave up their careers
To preach of the kingdom as faithful pioneers
But all that remained in brooklyn's bag of tricks.
Was another new year - nineteen seventy-six.
Some faithful were hurt and others offended.
Wondering why satan's world hadn't ended.
Then, one of the governing body showed strength.
He exposed all the lies and was kept at arm's length
They called him apostate but he more resembled Isis.
For he mustered the courage to pen Conscience In Crisis.
This wonderful book spread the truth far and wide.
That the governing body of jehovah's witnesses lied.
They lied when they taught that they were god's servant.
They lied quite convincingly - many felt they were fervent.
But since they were liars - merely arrogant jerks,
They lived off the faithful with decadent perks.
Then in the year of nineteen ninety-five
The governing body feared their cult wouldn't survive.
They needed a way to ensure their high station.
By doing away with the nineteen fourteen generation.
They sat in their high Brooklyn Tower
As the innocent suffered in their power
Comfortable and at ease in their stronghold
While the rank and file did what they were told
Tears and blood from them ran in a stream
As the orphans and poor lost self-esteem
Comfort and help came from those who roved
Through the vast internet treasure trove
Those who escaped from these abhorrent cultists.
Shared of their time and their stories to assist.
By two thousand six the cultists were dwindling.
Many used watchtower literature for kindling.
What can we learn from the watchtower's story?
Think for yourself or you'll end up someone's quarry.
according to the current dogma of jehovah's witnesses:.
those who hear and ignore the warning will be destroyedthose who do not hear might be spared (if jehovah so chooses)any who do not receive the mark in their foreheads (per ezekiel) will not be sparedany who are of responsible age (interpretted by jehovah) and are not baptized will not be sparedjehovah does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentancemore people are born every year than get baptized, adding to the death toll every year.
in case you doubt whether that statement is true, consider this:.
The jw don't carry anything life-saving unless they have a can of mace or something. They carry depression and battered self-esteem. Just because they don't realize it, doesn't make it any less harmful.
What is the ultimate result of teaching people that God is unstable and has devised a plan that by comparison makes Hitler look like a boy scout? They had me hating God for a long time. Their message of jehovah's defective love disgusts people and the persecution they so humbly suffer through, they bring on themselves.