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  The great crowd! Gathered by Whom? From Where? 2nd part

  by wannabe in

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  2. bible

  {revelation 12:7-17 nwt}.

  revelation 12:7-17 nwt}.

  " {revelation 7:13-17 nwt}.

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  AllTimeJeff

  I'm sorry, but my bullsh*t meter has redlined since Thursday. Please don't step in any brown patties as you read further.........
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  JW's a RELIGION based on PERFORMANCE! How dangerous is that???

  by freewilly01 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have come to realize that this religion is based almost solely on performance and that is the most dangerous.. i always felt that as a person or jw (while an active witness)that i was always just as good as my last assignment, comment at the watchtower meeting, feild service report.. this left me with a huge identity crisis in the borgorg......... i really didn't know who the hell i was?.

  did any of you feel similair?

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  AllTimeJeff

  A person can be wonderful, "Christlike", humble, loving, a genuinely good person, but be below 10 hours, and you are not "exemplary",

  A person can be a borderline prick, or even a full blown prick, and if they are consistent with 10 hours or more, or worse yet, actually pioneering, then the sky is the limit for them.

  Why do they almost only interview "full time" servants instead of "Christlike" servants at the Assemblies? There it is in a nutshell, its about your time, not your attitude.

  Is it dangerous? Yup, esp for those who prefer to be a good person instead of a good producer.
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  is counting how many people are present at a meeting a "privelige"

  by looloo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i know that my daughters abuser was a min servant when he abused girls in the cong then got reprooved when found out , i presume he was then stopped from being a min servant but he never answered at meeting s despite every meeting standing at the back counting people present .

  when i started attending meetings i wondered why he never answered but was not too shy to count people every meeting , when i asked my bible study conducter she never really gave a straight answer and looked embaressed .

  i thought if you had been accused of abuse you could not have priveliges ..

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  AllTimeJeff

  The leadership creates a great dichotemy by both glorifying (for their convenience) the most menial tasks, such as taking attendence at the meetings. Because of this, any pedophile within their midst should absolutely be barred from doing things like taking attendance, not because its a menial task, but because of how it is viewed within the JW community. Does it matter? In some areas, yes, others, no.
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  Do you atheists resent the believers on here and do you believers resent the atheists?

  by Lozhasleft in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm wondering how people feel about us exjws either becoming atheists or continuing on with a faith in god?.

  do you get angry or frustrated at the opposing view?.

  i'm new but i've seen different reactions to both on here...as for me i am happy to live and let live nowadays...its ok with me whatever people want to choose for themselves..... personally i still have enormous faith and love for god....if the jws couldnt destroy it i dont think much else could...?.

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  I allow for both. At first, I was solidly in the atheist corner on arguements, and you can still tell I side with them in all matters relating to logic and proof. However, I know and see the value that belief in god and higher powers brings, and I don't ignore that. Nor do I think it should be my life's work to intrude in such matters, as long as theists don't intrude in my life and my decisions, lifestyles, and beliefs. (or lack therof)
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  Was You a Bethelite, Elder,CO, DO, GB, Publisher, Missionary,Ministerial Servant or Pioneer class?????

  by Scott77 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  when still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.

  true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.

  been with it for about three years.

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  You never said how long for each service.

  MS from 94-2001, Elder from 01-06 (when I resigned) Gilead Class 119 April - Sept 05 and Missionary in Cameroon Oct 05 - Feb 06.

  Regular Pioneer/Full Time Preacher 1994-2006. (same time as my 1st marriage...)
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  Was You a Bethelite, Elder,CO, DO, GB, Publisher, Missionary,Ministerial Servant or Pioneer class?????

  by Scott77 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  when still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.

  true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.

  been with it for about three years.

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  AllTimeJeff

  I "made it" to Elder, Gilead, Missionary.

  .... and then apostate.
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  Introduction to Daniel - For Fun and Prophet

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  introduction to daniel - for fun and prophet.

  when i was a dubbie, i considered reading the bible books to be a major and boring chore, mainly because i was required to believe all that stuff i was reading.

  trying to make sense out of nonsense is always a frustrating chore.

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  *please note that this is NOT a new Kindumb Melody*

  Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
  I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain
  Oh and I can see Daniel waving goodbye
  God it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes
  
  They say Spain is pretty though I've never been
  Well Daniel says it's the best place that he's ever seen
  Oh and he should know, he's been there enough
  Lord I miss Daniel, oh I miss him so much
  
  Daniel my brother you are older than me
  Do you still feel the pain of the scars that won't heal
  Your eyes have died but you see more than I
  Daniel you're a star in the face of the sky
  
  Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
  I can see the red tail lights heading for Spain
  Oh and I can see Daniel waving goodbye
  God it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes
  Oh God it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes

  PS:
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  For born ins- what tipped you off it was wrong

  by teela(2) in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.

  the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.

  as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?

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  AllTimeJeff

  After the suicide of my disfellowshiped brother, I barely showed any emotion, because I didn't know if I was allowed, and was told that I would cry once and get over it. After a couple of weeks, I reflected on the life of my brother that barely got started, and why I wasn't allowed to help him in his time of need. It wasn't right, and it never set well with me.

  Watching the events of 9/11/2001, and coming to the realization that THIS really was just like the GB painted Armageddon to be. And I would be happy watching 7 billion people go through what those thousands of people did, all getting their just punishment of death because they didn't accept that Watchtower magazine from that 8 year old girl and as a result, never became a lucky JW like me?

  Having to deal with sleazy pedophiles. Having to disfellowship people and watch them suffer, along with their families. Seeing how truly UNHAPPY the majority of JW's really were, not because of life, but because of their JW obligations.
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  CO visit provides preview of April generation change!

  by agent zero in

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  2. friends

  i thought the april wt's brazen generation doctrine change would barely get an official mention before nor after the two paragraphs that deal with it, but yesterday i went to the circuit overseer's visit and in a talk from a bethel outline, he specifically mentioned the change, and i quote... "the very very very newest information we have available, from the april 15th 2010 watchtower!

  " ..reads the infamous paragraphs.. and then, "isn't that wonderful brothers and sisters?

  so now we understand that it means that brother russell's life overlapped with brother rutherford's who's life overlapped (he went through them all), so clearly, this means the end is near.".

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  I am among those who believe that there are certain CO's who are too vested, don't believe, but can't leave. So they leave little clues, getting overly enthusiastic for example over another generation change.

  Amazingly, the more stupid happy you are as an elder or CO, the better you look, even if you are totally being sarcastic. I gave more the a couple of talks where inside I was rolling my eyes (I gave a couple of talks hyping the Kingdom News tract campaigns, and I was so full of saccharin that the real true believers were crying...).

  If this CO really is that excited, all the better. I put even money that he is trying to get some low hanging fruit to think a bit. Being enthusiastic about another failed prophecy is a good way to get the gears creaking. I know it worked with me. Whenever a CO said "We've changed again, isn't that great?" I thought, "No, not really...."

  I remember one CO saying "We are a progressive religion. Do you really want to be a part of a religion that never changes as the light gets brighter?" Call me cynical, but looking back, I don't think that was an accident. I think that was a way of saying "We are going to change whatever, whenever it suits us."
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  ~~ from the "other JWN" : You Are Defective

  by chickpea in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the tripe factory is in full production.

  http://jehovahs-witness-news.blogspot.com/2010/03/manufactures-alert.html.

  the maker of all human beings (jehovah god) is recalling all units manufactured, regardless of make or year, due to a serious defect in the primary and central component of the heart.

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  AllTimeJeff

  Who is this guy? I am seeing in my minds eye coke bottle glasses, a Pentium 486 with dial up connectivity, and being surrounded by the Babyon the Great book with Aid book open on the table.

  Knee mail my @$$..... Love it. JW's need to keep posting on the internet, even if it is parroting the company line, so that the truly honest hearted ones will have the opportunity to be exposed to the information about JW's out there.....