Posts by AllTimeJeff

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GROUP PROJECT!(any programmers?) - lets find ALL possibilites for 666, with computer technology

by EndofMysteries in

back in the 1st century, when iraneus said that many words can equal 666, including latinos and titan, that spending much time to get them is pointless until it's actually taking place, and it will just serve as a 'confirmation'.

they also didn't have computers and could spend forever trying to come up with every possible scenario.

we can easily, with the right resources do that fairly easily.

AllTimeJeff

Huh?

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I HAVE JUST BEEN APPOINTED AS A MINISTERIAL SERVANT.

by african GB Member in

after being reinstated in 2008, i was finally appointed ms last night.. i am so excited now that i have a certain measure of 'power'.. ex-ms's/elders, what types of challenges come with this priviledge?.

what will be expected from me?.

AllTimeJeff

Ok, so you are a ministerial servant for JW's, which is akin to being an assistant manager for a cult. So what?

Wait, a Ministerial Servant would not be appointed with Jehovah in charge who comes and posts here. So, (sorry,) you are

1) A liar

2) Your appointment shows that Jehovah is as powerless as Brittney Spears chastity belt.

3) A troll, a bored troll, one who only takes the time to type here after all other activities involving your hand have been exhausted.

So, anyway. Whatever.

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Question for ALL ex JW's or those who don't believe everything - (the answers here may help you and your answers may help others)

by EndofMysteries in

please answer the question(s) which corresponds to your current belief, if you believe in a. the bible and god.

b. just god, but no bible c. neither (atheist).

i'm asking for mutual benefit, in my quest for the truth (still a work in progress), some of the things i've run into you may want to think about, and in your answers will show if anything i haven't thought of or checked into yet, as well as all readying this.... (all the hours you've spent, vs just my own, having many combined may bring up a few good things for us all from everyones answers ).

AllTimeJeff

Hey EOM.

The fact that you have your own take on god and the bible is fine with me. Believe me. And I wish you the best in that.

You haven't even touched on why believing is superior to not believing. And for all your faith (which again, I am cool with) that is hardly evidence for anything.

It's really as simple as that.

If YOU are looking for answers to questions YOU have, and find answers to YOUR questions, they are merely YOURS. It's one thing to discuss them and talk about the utility the serve in your life.

But when it comes to your expressions on faith and god, rarely do I read about how your beliefs give you peace. More often then not, your implication isn't one of love and peace, but of superiority and a division between believers and non believers.

Again, sorry to say for you, been there and done that, about tens of thousands of times with people of various religions. There is nothing that you have said that is particularly interesting or noteworthy about the bible, the last days, etc.

I mean, do you really think you discovered the wheel here? You do realize that you are one of hundreds of millions of people, Christians, who talk and say the things you do. You all come and go. Your god hasn't shown.

Please don't think I am trying to either debate you or otherwise win an arguement. But I do have a point to make. You talk/type a lot, but say very little. You address neither a sympathetic audience (aka believers) with words of faith, nor a skeptical audience (aka non believers) with compelling arguements.

For as many words you have typed, all you have basically said is "Hey non believers, whats your problem? Why don't you believe? Surely what you have replaced your old belief with isn't as good."

If you haven't meant that, it sure comes across that way to me. And that is why I challenge you, not to change your beliefs, but to instead examine your motives as to why you bring up these inane topics with nothing more to say or do then to incite a discussion that is ultimately self serving for your own belief system.

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I HAVE JUST BEEN APPOINTED AS A MINISTERIAL SERVANT.

by african GB Member in

after being reinstated in 2008, i was finally appointed ms last night.. i am so excited now that i have a certain measure of 'power'.. ex-ms's/elders, what types of challenges come with this priviledge?.

what will be expected from me?.

AllTimeJeff

I think they will put me in the sound room because of my technical abilities.

I think they should put you in the bathroom, because you are full of crap!

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Something Mary Wrote

by snowbird in

has been bugging me since i read it.. she mentioned how a classmate took special delight in tormenting her due to mary's being a jw.. mary mentioned that this girl pointed to and mocked her when she couldn't share in a birthday?

celebration.. are some kids really that cruel?

where were the teachers?.

AllTimeJeff

Hey there.

Born in the South. I can tell you that Southerners take great pride in being mannerly. That is a big difference from being nice, which varies from person to person and has nothing to do with their location relative to the Mason/Dixon line.

Go VOLS!

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Since JWs won't go to apostate boards, but they will read the newspaper...

by JimmyPage in

jw
friends

... i've written a letter to a local paper.

i hope it will be printed.

it says nothing about jws, but it should get the light bulbs to go off in their heads.

AllTimeJeff

And thats the key, WE woke up. Having said that, there were many clues along the way that added up and helped. I am sure what you are doing will serve that purpose for many... :)

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Since JWs won't go to apostate boards, but they will read the newspaper...

by JimmyPage in

jw
friends

... i've written a letter to a local paper.

i hope it will be printed.

it says nothing about jws, but it should get the light bulbs to go off in their heads.

AllTimeJeff

Good luck. It's hard to wake up the mentally asleep.

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CO visit comments: Facebook & new "generation" teaching

by sir82 in

jw
friends

just a couple more gems from the recent co visit:.

in his meeting with elders / ms, he was warning of the "dangers" of the internet.

following is a more or less accurate quotation:.

AllTimeJeff

Well, one thing hasn't changed since I left: CO's are still full of shit.

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why are women so forgiving in jehovahs witnesses ?

by looloo in

jw
friends

i saw a jw girl i used to work with a few weeks back who was married for about 8 years and has 2 children , she was in a right state and told me her husband had just left her for a work collegue and said he no longer loved her !

within a month i see her again and she took him back within a wk of him going to live with this other woman , she told me she blamed herself for not having sex often enough !and they were working on their marriage !

why would you want someone who said they no longer loved you ?

AllTimeJeff

With all respect to the many fine women on this board, you clearly never met my ex wife.

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Question for ALL ex JW's or those who don't believe everything - (the answers here may help you and your answers may help others)

by EndofMysteries in

please answer the question(s) which corresponds to your current belief, if you believe in a. the bible and god.

b. just god, but no bible c. neither (atheist).

i'm asking for mutual benefit, in my quest for the truth (still a work in progress), some of the things i've run into you may want to think about, and in your answers will show if anything i haven't thought of or checked into yet, as well as all readying this.... (all the hours you've spent, vs just my own, having many combined may bring up a few good things for us all from everyones answers ).

AllTimeJeff

I am just curious as to why you are disturbed that SOME former JW's don't "believe everything". As if to imply that those that "believe everything" are somehow superior?

A sad, yet curious fact about believers (not all, but a definite some) is that their belief is predicated on getting others to believe in, exercise faith in, the unseen entity that all religions claim to know, represent, but never produce.

So this whole thread is a misnomer, an exercise in futility. This topic has nothing to do with the utility of faith. You instead challenge those who "don't believe everything".

The whole premise of your thread is to discuss fiction with those who "don't believe everything".

In my view, maturity is reached when a person can keep their own beliefs while letting go of the need to somehow convince or force their beliefs on others.

I realize that you might protest and say "But I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone." Fair enough. But are you allowing for the very real possibility that YOU are in error?

If you can't recognize your own theological gray areas, then you only bring this up for one reason, as an apologetic for your own dogmatic point of view. As if others must be convinced you are right, or that others must be convinced they are wrong.

If you see God where others don't, all I can say is, tell her we said hello. But you seeing god, and believing we were somehow created is a long way from identity and personality.

Your use of words like "belief" are disrespectful in my opinion, to myself and many others. As if atheists and agnostics replaced belief in god with a belief in a non god. Atheists and agnostics will ever only bring up one point that seems to be lost on you; you and your beliefs, and your passion, have produced not one iota of EVIDENCE of a god, to say nothing of a god with a distinctive personality.

Anyway, my question to you is, why do you care?